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Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:04 am
by ssilk
See viewtopic.php?f=189&t=93019

I changed my opinion and think it would make sense to have no empty depth box, if there is no banner picture for a mod.
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Re: Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:26 am
by Deadlock989
Yeah, dead grey space without a border is tight.

So much better than dead grey space with a border.

PS. I don't know why you insist on calling it a "banner picture". The mod portal and modding documentation calls it a thumbnail. The file that creates it is named thumbnail.png. Banners are something else.

Re: Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:36 am
by Klonan
probably better just to use the 'MIssing thumbnail' as in the base game
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Re: Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:56 am
by Deadlock989
Better how? Why would it be better to have pages full of icons that look like error messages?

The most downloaded mod of all time is RSO, with 1.375 million downloads. It's 8% ahead of the mod with the second highest.

It doesn't have a thumbnail. Clearly not having thumbnails is a serious impediment to ... nothing.

At any rate, at least I've found a new thumbnail.

Re: Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:42 am
by ssilk
Klonan wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:36 am
probably better just to use the 'MIssing thumbnail' as in the base game
I like that. :)

Re: Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:01 am
by Xorimuth
ssilk wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:42 am
Klonan wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:36 am
probably better just to use the 'MIssing thumbnail' as in the base game
I like that. :)
I don't. I think that it is fine how it is.

Re: Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:22 am
by Deadlock989
Thumbnails are an optional part of the mod structure specification. They are not "missing" because they do not have to exist, so the in-game display of "Missing thumbnail" is wrong and misleading: the mod has no fault whatsoever if it does not supply a thumbnail. If you want an analogy, an OS file browser would never show "Missing thumbnail" in non-localised rasterised text if the files didn't have a preview thumbnail available; the thumbnail is not missing in exactly the same way that an aardvark on toast is not missing. "No thumbnail" would be less inaccurate but still alarmist and still non-localised. Some incredibly dim and unnoticeable placeholder image like the generic "picture" icon used would be less of a problem but if you're climbing down that far then an empty frame is pretty much the same thing.

I guess I could start a thread about the horror of using non-localisable rasterised text messages in icons that but it seems like a waste of everyone's time to be so pedantic.

Re: Remove depth box if no banner picture

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:24 am
by ssilk
Perhaps we could agree on this: it’s currently inconsistent for the web and in-game-browser. Please change that. :)