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Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:29 am
by Helfima
@slay_mithos: yes it's bad, I must redo all calculation on fuild usage, fuel consumption and power
in theory it seems simple but not with the API and there are no unit

for sample if you mean LuaEntityPrototype.max_energy_usage is the max power for electric consumption, some time is wrong or empty
it depends on the energy source, in electric will need to add the drain

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:09 pm
by power5000
The ratio for your calculations for oil processing in your main post maybe outdated I just tried them and they had an excess of fluid. I managed to figure out the formulas the new formulas in 0.17 are 29.4% for heavy to light and 43.5 for light to petro. :)

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:13 pm
by khalismur
Got a question regarding beacons. So the 3 input boxes are as follows, exactly like in game, with their explanation text that comes up on mouse hover in the ()
  • Amount, affecting one (Number of beacon affecting one factory)
  • Beacon by factory (Number of beacon per factory)
  • Constant Beacon (Constant number of beacon)
These are the three input boxes exactly as seen in the mod UI.

I don't quite understand what is "Constant Beacon". Could anyone more experienced with this amazing mod help me out please? Isn't the total number of beacons a solution based on the number of factories and the number of beacons per factory?

Also, just as an example, how would I input this configuration in the mod?
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Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:28 pm
by Helfima
@khalismur hello
edit: in your case
[amount affecting one] = 3
[beacon by factory]=0.5
[constant beacon]=2


[amount affecting one] = is only use to computing effect from beacon on factory

the another values is use to calculate the beacon number with more flexibility
[beacon by factory]*X + [constant beacon] = number of beacon for the recipe (where X is the number of factory)

in this case the yellow line is the variant, 1 beacon for 2 factory = 0.5 beacon by factory
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Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:33 pm
by khalismur
Hello there. Ahhhh I understand now. Thanks a lot for the explanation and for the fantastic mod!!

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:41 pm
by Helfima
No problemo :P
I must update the help

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:18 pm
by andre2
I really enjoy this mod since I have discovered it 2 years ago. But I think I still dont use its full potential.
Is there a complete manual out there for it?

I have the issue that I dont know how to add up all the max. needed resources of the production I build up over time. It would be nice if I could add up all max. iron plate, copper plate, green chips, etc. which my production needs. So that I can plan the smelting columns and such better and add smelting as needed for example.

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 12:07 am
by Helfima
@andre2
if you want all ressources, you must add all recipes in one production line

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 11:52 pm
by SuperBananaBomb
How can I modify the 3 values for beacon?

- Amount, affecting one: 4
- Beacon by factory: 0.5
- Constant Beacon: 3

Any value I change has no effect on the calculations, and closing/reopening the Edit Recipe window restores the values to their default.
Also, using the Apply-on-all-categories/category buttons (A, C next to M) returns their value to their default whenever I click them.
Helfima wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:28 pm
@khalismur hello
edit: in your case
[amount affecting one] = 3
[beacon by factory]=0.5
[constant beacon]=2
This reply (a couple of posts above this) leads me to believe that these values should be editable.

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 2:28 pm
by Helfima
hello use ENTER to set the value on each input

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:46 pm
by SuperBananaBomb
Helfima wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 2:28 pm
hello use ENTER to set the value on each input
That worked! Wow, seems pretty weird that I missed this in retrospect.
Thanks!

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 11:44 pm
by evandy
Just updated to the latest version of helmod, and suddenly I am unable to open the dialog for changing type of assembler or beacons for a recipe. When I click the button to open it, nothing happens. Help?

EDIT: Okay, I figured this out... when I play on my external monitor (which is bigger) - Helmod is remembering the last position of the recipe window - but it was off-screen when playing directly on my laptop. Real problem: If the last displayed position was off-screen, Helmod doesn't bring the recipe editor window back on-screen when opening it.

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:43 am
by Pridesfall
Getting this error on startup while on 0.18.27.

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:20 pm
by Helfima
hello Pridesfall
the error come from FNEI mod

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 1:14 pm
by aklesey1
Its looks liike its not FNEI
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there is a suspicion that the actual craft time can break something

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 1:48 pm
by aklesey1
Okey its looks like Recipe explorer breaking something on 0.18.27 version

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 3:04 pm
by Helfima
Normally, I don't use style from Factorio base to not generate error on style :P

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:46 am
by Mecejide
Feature request: a button that makes all item & fluid amounts in a given block integers. For example, if you set up a block to make 1 electronic circuit per second and then click the button, all counts will be multiplied by 2 to make the copper ore & copper plate amounts integers.

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:32 pm
by Doylecan
The 2 screenshots on this page really helped me understand how to set the beacon settings, thank you. Although how about the Constant Beacon number when using Space Exploration/AAI when only one beacon can be connected to each assembler? I set "Amount, affecting one" to 1, "Beacon by factory" to .25 if the beacon assists 4, .125 if it assists 8, but I don't quite get what to set "Constant Beacon" to. I have played around and put in 1, 2, and the beacon number in the Production Block doesn't compute correctly. Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else, I have searched for days.

Another remark/suggestion I have is for boilers, when I use Coal Liquefaction for sulfur, plastic and rocket fuel factories, I can select different steam temps but only the electric boilers or even turbines, I would like to be able to select the standard boilers and draw from either the incoming coal lines or from the solid fuel created by petroleum to help use up some of the excess petroleum in the rocket fuel factories. Is this a possibility?

Thanks for an amazing mod, I can't imagine how many hours you've spent on it.

Re: [MOD 0.17.x]Helmod: Assistant to plan its base.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:37 am
by Helfima
Hello Doylecan,

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[amount affecting one] = is only use to computing effect from beacon on factory
[beacon by factory]*X + [constant beacon] = number of beacon for the recipe (where X is the number of factory)
in this case the yellow line is the variant, 1 beacon for 2 factory = 0.5 beacon by factory
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I'm not understand all but you can set Constant Beacon at 0
me I can select standard boiler in Space Exploration
what is your helmod version?

probably it's better to exchange on Helmod Discord https://discord.gg/mKEeAKb