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Instant blueprints. Nowdays it's a part of "creative mode" mod. Blueprints place real entities instead of ghosts, no conbots needed. The game still froze for a quite a while when placing the parts for the larger ones so it wasn't really "instant"olafthecat wrote:So when I originally commented on this post, I was able to look at your amazing creations.
Now however, since I am currently using a lesser one, it basically crashed.
A question, how did you build this?
The lag must have been insane.
Ha!impetus maximus wrote:i tried updating/converting the blueprint string of the 512 with this and it says "413 Request Entity Too Large"
allow me to be the first person to say: thank you for the design, but I need biggerQon wrote:No one says "Thanks, just what I needed". I wonder why that is?
well, who is stopping me?Koub wrote:You'll also need a pair of these :
If you want to be able to run the game with sugh a base
If I made a 8192 balancer blueprint, would you actually use it? Well at least try open the bp in game, probably crashes before it's even made from the bp string...Red_Katana_001 wrote:allow me to be the first person to say: thank you for the design, but I need biggerQon wrote:No one says "Thanks, just what I needed". I wonder why that is?
the megabse I'm planning to make would consume 6522.5 belts of iron ore to make 25 belts of each science pack (even space science)
so I would need a 8192 balancer. would also consume 5135 belts of copper...
I think I have a LOT of work to do.
I think you mean the 512 balancer needs 2.4k (2304 to be exact) or the 256 needs 1024 splitters.Qon wrote:[*] The 256 balancer requires 75k UG belt, 18k express belts and 2.4k express splitters.
That's a 2^13 balancer, so 13*2^12 = 13*4096 = 53248 splitters needed.Qon wrote:If I made a 8192 balancer blueprint, would you actually use it? Well at least try open the bp in game, probably crashes before it's even made from the bp string...
well, after investigating your design, I can see the pattern in it so I could just make blueprints of little parts and then use them to make the bigger one so it won't crash the gameQon wrote:If I made a 8192 balancer blueprint, would you actually use it? Well at least try open the bp in game, probably crashes before it's even made from the bp string...Red_Katana_001 wrote:allow me to be the first person to say: thank you for the design, but I need biggerQon wrote:No one says "Thanks, just what I needed". I wonder why that is?
the megabse I'm planning to make would consume 6522.5 belts of iron ore to make 25 belts of each science pack (even space science)
so I would need a 8192 balancer. would also consume 5135 belts of copper...
I think I have a LOT of work to do.
Here is the new Factorio v0.15 blueprints. Sizes 8 to 1024! And it includes node.js code to generate any size if you have enough RAM.impetus maximus wrote:thanks Qon
i'm avoiding loading saves until the devs fix blueprints being added to 'My Blueprints" from other players saves.
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npm i victor nomnom factorio-blueprint prettyjson
node --max_old_space_size=65536 .\balancer.js 2048Or you can do it with map mode zoom into one corner start the selection zoom out and zoom into the other corner blueprint selected in seconds (it's how I BP my XL balancers (and even a whole base from MP on more than occasion)Qon wrote:Download the save file and remaking the blueprints in game with the 0.15 client.
I suggest you at least use a mod that lets you run faster (creative mode can do this) when selecting the bigger balancers. You don't want to lose minutes of holding down m1 and running around if you accidentally drop m1 or have to leave temporarily.
whenever I try to open the program it says that there is an error on line 7, charachter 7 hope you can fix thisQon wrote:Here is the new Factorio v0.15 blueprints. Sizes 8 to 1024! And it includes node.js code to generate any size if you have enough RAM.impetus maximus wrote:thanks Qon
i'm avoiding loading saves until the devs fix blueprints being added to 'My Blueprints" from other players saves.
http://www43.zippyshare.com/v/0T0vvXeB/file.html
These are also better looking and more fractal all the way down to the 16-balancer which is made from 3 8-balancer. The old ones had some unaligned UG belts and didn't include 3 of the previous generation until size 64 (The smaller ones had 2 from the previous generation and custom made mixing after that). While them being more fractal makes them use slightly more space (32 balancer and up) and a bit more splitters, the new ones have much less entities total becasue of the new UG skip distance for express belts.
My computer can't generate bigger balancers than 1024 with 7GB of RAM available. And I can't really test balancers that are larger than 256 even with instant blueprints. Factorio freezes for a long while whenever the blueprint preview is rendered or the placement preview is shown. And trying to actually place one as a single blueprint requires more RAM than I have available. I could qoncievably generate the larger balancers in parts to be able to place down blueprints that are even larger. But if each part is as big as a 256 balancer then the 1024 balancer would be about 16 parts, which is a quite a lot of work. And thats basically the limit. 2048 would be about 64~ish 256-balancers in size. That could take a couple of hours to place with instant blueprint...
If anyone with a beefier PC wants to help that would be nice. If you have 16 GB RAM and a few minutes you should be able to generate the 2048 balancer. 32 GB ram is probably needed to generate a 4096 balancer. To place these blueprints in game as 1 piece requires probably about 2 or 4 times as much. The generation time is not that bad as long as you don't run out of RAM. Takes 20 seconds to create the 1024 balancer from the 512 balancer on my machine.
I'll update the first post later. Would be nice if I get some submissions of pics and blueprints of larger balancers and can include those at the same time.Code: Select all
npm i victor nomnom factorio-blueprint prettyjson node --max_old_space_size=65536 .\balancer.js 2048
It works on my machine. Maybe you can post the whole error message so I don't have to guess what it saysRed_Katana_001 wrote:whenever I try to open the program it says that there is an error on line 7, charachter 7 hope you can fix this
it says that it expects an Id, row of charachters or a number, at code 800A0404, and scource compilationsmistake microsoft javascriptQon wrote:It works on my machine. Maybe you can post the whole error message so I don't have to guess what it saysRed_Katana_001 wrote:whenever I try to open the program it says that there is an error on line 7, charachter 7 hope you can fix this
When I said post I meant paste, as in copying the exact message and posting it here.Red_Katana_001 wrote:it says that it expects an Id, row of charachters or a number, at code 800A0404, and scource compilationsmistake microsoft javascript
it appearantly uses windows script host, no idea if this is the correct one or how I can change itQon wrote: Are you even using node.js? Microsoft has nothing to do with node...
Well you did quote me giving you the instructions...Red_Katana_001 wrote:it appearantly uses windows script host, no idea if this is the correct one or how I can change itQon wrote: Are you even using node.js? Microsoft has nothing to do with node...
Red_Katana_001 wrote:whenever I try to open the program it says that there is an error on line 7, charachter 7 hope you can fix thisQon wrote:I'll update the first post later. Would be nice if I get some submissions of pics and blueprints of larger balancers and can include those at the same time.Code: Select all
npm i victor nomnom factorio-blueprint prettyjson node --max_old_space_size=65536 .\balancer.js 2048
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cd <balancer folder>Code: Select all
npm i victor nomnom prettyjsonCode: Select all
node --max_old_space_size=65536 .\balancer.js 2048