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Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:15 am
by Trebor
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Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:51 pm
by disentius
Very nice idea:)
Sort of ran away with it and made this:
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so i could do this:
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Still dumb, but stackable dumb :D

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:20 am
by Trebor
LOL!

Your's is a bit faster then the original.

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:08 am
by Trebor
Made some adjustments so it's stackable.
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Still just as slow as it was. Or maybe 3 times faster ;) .

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:13 am
by theolderbeholder
disentius wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:51 pm
so i could do this:
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Still dumb, but stackable dumb :D
jftr:
Stacking it 2x3 instead of 1x5 will save you 6 Beacons plus their modules for the price of some extra belt.

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:40 pm
by disentius
Correct. :D
It's a proof-of-stackability, not actual production. we had a forumdiscussion a while ago about kovarex enrichment, and Trebor's Idea is a new approach.
You can find it here:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=62778

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:23 pm
by disentius
Made some adjustments; stackable and smaller.
Never realized that the new splitters have so much potential. :D
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Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:09 pm
by Trebor
Wow! That is tiny.

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:50 am
by quyxkh
disentius wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:23 pm
Made some adjustments; stackable and smaller.
Never realized that the new splitters have so much potential. :D

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Name your prize, dude. That is insane.

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:08 am
by DaveMcW
What is the advantage to using splitters instead of filter inserters?

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Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:59 am
by theolderbeholder
Picks up jaw, re-attaches to face. :shock:
7x3, tileable.

I do not understand how disentius desgin works (which tells me I have not grasped the true potential of the new splitters as well), but I feel it might be more tolerant to the startup phase as it priorizes 235 into its own, closed loop.

I really should finish Fallout 3 and see that I start a new factory...

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:41 pm
by disentius
@DaveMcW:

I am designing builds for a base:
- Substation grid aligned
- All factories fully beaconed
- All designs modular (e.g. stackable in both directions)
- Bot and belt versions of each

so i made this:
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to be able to do something like this:
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Your design is very elegant, as usual, but not modular enoughto fit easily in the substation grid.

PS.
Bots would be easier here, but where is the fun in that? :mrgreen:
[edit2]
PPS. Final design will have some cirquit logic added to get rid of the feedback loop, but this will work.

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:29 pm
by Serenity
For a very simple circuit design I like this:
https://youtu.be/o2Taa04Qrw8?t=70

No combinators needed. Just wires two inserters to a small stretch of belt and outputs the excess. It's not self-feeding and needs to be primed at the start, but after that it works nicely

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:35 pm
by disentius
Aaaand ofcourse i'm wrong.
Dave's design, beaconed and grid aligned.
[facepalm] :mrgreen:

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:07 pm
by featherwinglove
Anyone else had the back of their head asking if the title of this thread was about the guy? :mrgreen:

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:32 am
by disentius
Nope.
Trebor's idea of using splitters was a new thought, so a new Kovarex variation for me. Awesome!
And I knew of Dave's design, But hadnt really used in a build yet.

[EDIT]
And the only (simple) one i found which doesn't get stuck when stacked, be it backpressure or starving input, without circuit logic. :mrgreen:

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:22 pm
by nafira
Hi, as suggested by disentus, I'm adding my contribution.

My version don't use splitters but circular scheme instead. You can start with only 1 Kovarex, then 2, then 4, etc. entirely modular.
Currently I'm using bots, but you can use belts to add uranium (the u-238 is kinda useless once launched).

The maximum increase in speed is 500%.
It's much more simpler than using splitters IMO.

Re: Simple dumb Koravex

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:36 pm
by featherwinglove
nafira wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:22 pm
Hi, as suggested by disentus, I'm adding my contribution.
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It's much more simpler than using splitters IMO.
This looks really cool: Simple smart Kovarex. My kind of centrifuge "battery" ;) (Look at the underground belt for the positive pole.)