Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:40 am
I still like my version better - uses two fewer underground belts, looks a little less confusing, and can be built slightly narrower if desired. 
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Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:28 am
Looking through that album Tallinu, is there a reason you use 6 inserters per wagon side instead of 7?
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:25 am
Thats the old design of a balanced loading stationVin wrote:Looking through that album Tallinu, is there a reason you use 6 inserters per wagon side instead of 7?
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:40 pm
It's also usable before you get substations. And the difference between 6 and 7 is trivial, since you can't adjust a train's stopping time finer than 5 second increments, although it does help empty each full train-load onto the belts 16% faster.OBAMA MCLAMA wrote:Thats the old design of a balanced loading stationVin wrote:Looking through that album Tallinu, is there a reason you use 6 inserters per wagon side instead of 7?
And speaking of the album, I just added an inline 8-lane balancer to it. If anyone has a more compact version, I'd love to see it.
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:57 pm
I like the 8-way. Even if inline balancers take up more space, I find them much more visually appealing.
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:06 pm
Could you put some of those balancers on wiki?Tallinu wrote:I still like my version better - uses two fewer underground belts, looks a little less confusing, and can be built slightly narrower if desired.
While I'm not building that many belts.. yet - it would be good to have them stored somewhere
They look cool
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:02 pm
Do these work well in 12.2?Tallinu wrote:I still like my version better - uses two fewer underground belts, looks a little less confusing, and can be built slightly narrower if desired.
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:59 pm
Technically, yes. But from what I've heard and seen in-game, corners don't damage item flow anymore.Urbs wrote:Do these work well in 12.2?Tallinu wrote:I still like my version better - uses two fewer underground belts, looks a little less confusing, and can be built slightly narrower if desired.
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:20 am
I think even side belt insert items as fast as possible now.
Re: 4-lane lossless corner for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:32 pm
Piranha wrote:Your Design with PercentageMy Simplified Design with PercentageBut would this not work also with far less materialAlso, I feel like the last one could be improved with underground belts to make it more compact but MS Paint is hard enough already.
And lastly, I would have to guess a design that doesn't have a single percentage over 100 would be the best result because technically anything over 100% is actually just causing a small back log so although you have 100% compression it is a result of backing up the throughput at that specific point to force compression to be full again.. but I guess the corners are losing some compression.. so you do need a bit over 100.. if someone could figure out the exact number you are losing aka the compression percentage after a belt turn then you could tweak the design again to fully optimize the throughput.
If I am missing something here please let me know
I do not work on any of this in-game but enjoy reading these discussions on the forums.
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.I probably sound like a nube(and feel like one too, even though I have 70+ hours in the bag), but could you explain (or point me at a forum page that will) what those calculations are and how to calculate them? Thanks in advance.
Re: 4-lane lossless corner for ColonelWill
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:36 pm
I am relatively new to the game too. But I think the percentages simply are the relative parts which are a product of the 50% / 50% Splitters.TuckJohn wrote:Piranha wrote:Your Design with Percentage[...]
I probably sound like a nube(and feel like one too, even though I have 70+ hours in the bag), but could you explain (or point me at a forum page that will) what those calculations are and how to calculate them? Thanks in advance.
Re: Belt Designs for ColonelWill
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:53 am
It doesn't help that the math was wrong, as well. You can't have an output lane more than 100%. In the actual game, the back pressure would build up and force the other side of other splitters to output more, so an iterative process would be needed to calculate what really happens. Well, in previous versions, you could over-compress splitter outputs, so the only real way to figure it out would be to build it and test it. I've spent many hours doing exactly that. Most of the designs in this thread are completely useless in 0.12. Now, ColonelWill has my imgur account bookmarked and just references that if he needs a design.