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rakker60 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:32 pm

I am stucked!!!
I need used-up urarium fuelcells.
In hellmod it tells that if I make 1 uranium fuelcell it gives also an used-up fuelcell, but when I make the urarium fuelcell it gives not the used-up ones.
See The attached pic.
I can't burn the full fuelcells because I can't research the heat pipes, and heat exchangers, and I need the used-up ones for my chemical science pack.

Who can help me to solve this problem???

factoriogame1121 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:21 pm

1. Introduction to the game of gunpowder, as I understand it, this is part of the upcoming mod. However, due to the inaccessibility of sulfur to the "evaporative treatment 1" technology, it is impossible to fight or defend against biters for a long time. Please enter something more entry level as soon as possible.
2. MHD generator costing 1 iron plate is this a test or a bug?
3. I wrote that the new recipe for iron oxide plates is dishonest? of this iron oxide in production is simply tons. accordingly, a bunch of free iron plates.
4. Please don't make it easy science pack recipes are the core of the whole gameplay.

Zicandar wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:11 am

factoriogame1121 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:21 pm

1. I think this is a bug and is fixed on Github already. (Based on what has been talked about on the discord and my memory).
2. What is a MHD generator? I can't find anything costing 1 iron plate other then expected stuff (pipes) even in inaccessible stuff. There is a Prop Car (whatever that is) for 999 iron plates.
3. How are you getting tons of iron oxide? Sure, it's "free iron plates", but also used for other stuff later on.

3.
because I have big coal-fired steam power plants. I don't know what to do with iron oxide anymore. dozens of boxes. it's a leisurely game. And I still didn't think it was better. to extract iron, or to extract oxide and iron from it.

please don't do anything "free" in a mod that is by its very nature designed for complexity and that's what it's valued for.

I can’t raise my hand to process it all into iron plates. I will do it and I will have ten thousand of them. what the heck? from rust? return the last recipe 10 (or 20) to one.

with the processing of ashes, there is no such garbage - plates of different metals are normally slowly collected there. everything is adequate.

factoriogame1121 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:32 am

Zicandar wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:11 am

factoriogame1121 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:21 pm

1. I think this is a bug and is fixed on Github already. (Based on what has been talked about on the discord and my memory).
2. What is a MHD generator? I can't find anything costing 1 iron plate other then expected stuff (pipes) even in inaccessible stuff. There is a Prop Car (whatever that is) for 999 iron plates.
3. How are you getting tons of iron oxide? Sure, it's "free iron plates", but also used for other stuff later on.

3.
because I have big coal-fired steam power plants. I don't know what to do with iron oxide anymore. dozens of boxes. it's a leisurely game. And I still didn't think it was better. to extract iron, or to extract oxide and iron from it.

please don't do anything "free" in a mod that is by its very nature designed for complexity and that's what it's valued for.

I can’t raise my hand to process it all into iron plates. I will do it and I will have ten thousand of them. what the heck? from rust? return the last recipe 10 (or 20) to one.

with the processing of ashes, there is no such garbage - plates of different metals are normally slowly collected there. everything is adequate.

It might feel like it gives crazy amounts of iron plates, but 10 belts of fuel (read ash) = 0.75 iron oxide = 0.375 iron plates per second.
The only reason it feels like it's a lot is because you have stored them for hours. And a few tens of thousands of iron is gone in a very short amount of time!
Yes, you get some more iron oxide from using raw coal -> tar etc, but even that is a tiny trickle compared to what a single belt of iron ore gives.

As for making stuff "free" in PY, well, there are LOTS of things that are "free" (electricity), or easy to make Zero Input, moss, biomass and a few others come to mind.

But your way of looking at it is very interesting, and I thank you for taking your time to write a really good explanation!

Zicandar wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:37 am

factoriogame1121 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:32 am

Zicandar wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:11 am

factoriogame1121 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:21 pm

It might feel like it gives crazy amounts of iron plates, but 10 belts of fuel (read ash) = 0.75 iron oxide = 0.375 iron plates per second.
The only reason it feels like it's a lot is because you have stored them for hours. And a few tens of thousands of iron is gone in a very short amount of time!
Yes, you get some more iron oxide from using raw coal -> tar etc, but even that is a tiny trickle compared to what a single belt of iron ore gives.

As for making stuff "free" in PY, well, there are LOTS of things that are "free" (electricity), or easy to make Zero Input, moss, biomass and a few others come to mind.

But your way of looking at it is very interesting, and I thank you for taking your time to write a really good explanation!

I am an ardent fan of these mods (They literally develop brains), so I am sensitive to the nuances.
"Free" things can be, the main thing is that they are difficult to implement. In particular, to make them hard to calculate and design.

nngs_geek2 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:53 pm

I'm moving towards the Chemical Science Pack, and was making the Plutonium, and noticed a huge amount of U-238 building up. So, I looked into Koravex, and it appears disabled with the full suite of Py mods.

What does one do with all this extra U-238? The MOX fuel cell doesn't seem to consume all of it either (looking forward in the tree).

Is Koravex supposed to be disabled?

donoya wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:02 am

Is PY Financial still going to be developed?

Or did that turn into the now called PY Industry?

And are there planned to be any other future mods for the Pyanodon's mod suite?

ColdGate wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:09 pm

Hi, just got an error:

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The mod Pyanodons Alternative Energy (1.2.20) caused a non-recoverable error.
Please report this error to the mod author.

Error while running event pyalternativeenergy::on_nth_tick(61)
__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:94: attempt to concatenate local 'direction' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:94: in function 'draw_windmill'
	__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:144: in function <__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:129>

It repeats after few minutes play latest save.

--- scripts/wind/wind.lua       2024-02-28 07:26:46.000000000 +0100
+++ scripts/wind/wind.lua.fixed 2024-03-05 18:22:06.557758826 +0100
@@ -108,7 +108,7 @@
 }
 
 function Wind.calculate_wind_direction(surface)
-    local wind_dir = math.ceil((surface.wind_orientation + 1/16) % 1 * 8)
+    local wind_dir = 1 + math.floor((surface.wind_orientation + 1/16) * 8 % 8)
     return wind_dir_names[wind_dir]
 end
 

Nidan wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:30 pm

ColdGate wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:09 pm

Hi, just got an error:

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The mod Pyanodons Alternative Energy (1.2.20) caused a non-recoverable error.
Please report this error to the mod author.

Error while running event pyalternativeenergy::on_nth_tick(61)
__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:94: attempt to concatenate local 'direction' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:94: in function 'draw_windmill'
	__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:144: in function <__pyalternativeenergy__/scripts/wind/wind.lua:129>

It repeats after few minutes play latest save.

Ran into that one as well. Here's a patch to fix it:

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--- scripts/wind/wind.lua       2024-02-28 07:26:46.000000000 +0100
+++ scripts/wind/wind.lua.fixed 2024-03-05 18:22:06.557758826 +0100
@@ -108,7 +108,7 @@
 }
 
 function Wind.calculate_wind_direction(surface)
-    local wind_dir = math.ceil((surface.wind_orientation + 1/16) % 1 * 8)
+    local wind_dir = 1 + math.floor((surface.wind_orientation + 1/16) * 8 % 8)
     return wind_dir_names[wind_dir]
 end
 

When surface.wind_orientation is exactly 0.9375, wind_dir will be 0. Since lua starts counting indices from 1, wind_dir_names[0] gives nil, resulting in the quoted error.

ColdGate wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:45 am

Thank you! Fix saves me a lot of time!

Nidan wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:51 am

ColdGate wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:45 am

Thank you! Fix saves me a lot of time!

It has been fixed upstream in the meantime, so just update your mods