[0.17.39] Campaign Feedback

[xhed]

I enjoyed the campaign, but there are some issues I came across.

Gameplay

• Compilatron is a nice addition to the game, but it would advance to the next part of the tutorial when I got close, while my intent was to build a structure to prepare for the next step. This was most noticeable after the completion of the campaign when I was in the progress in building my defenses on the right side of the (newly revealed) map. With no turrets or walls in place yet, I had no other option than to load the latest quicksave. That being ~10 minutes ago, I just quit.
• In my first playthrough, I suddenly had to increase the output of my science modules, which I couldn't fit in my base without demolishing half of my production line. As there wasn't much science research, so I was short on science production. I would have preferred having to ramp up the science production earlier so that I'm not hastily rebuilding the factory while getting overrun with biters.
• The campaign is quite combat heavy in my opinion, especially when the biters rapidly start increasing in numbers. The increase was so fast that I didn't have time to react to it during my first playthrough.
• Not having undergrounds/splitters/long inserters gave me quite a challenge in designing the base. In the end, I fed the coal into my smelting arrays by filling a wooden chest with coal and placing it on the belt using an inserter. Logistics & inserters are usually the first things to unlock in freeplay, but they aren't even present in the current campaign (other than yellow inserters).
• Why can I craft an assembly machine by hand, but not iron gears, copper wire or green circuits?

UI

• The crafting menu is a bit of a mess in the campaign, I'd prefer to have it split up a bit. Separate rows (like in Freeplay) would already help to separate production/intermediate/combat.
• When adding an item to the quickbar by clicking a slot on the quickbar, the selection window shows a lot of items the player hasn't unlocked (and won't be able to unlock during the campaign), cluttering up the view and making what I want hard to find.
• The milestone tasks to complete are written bottom-up, which was confusing for a bit.

[Silverstar456]

Hey xhed,

I did enjoy it too and I really agree wth every point.

1. In my eyes a newbie would really has difficulties with the biters. The focus of the campaign should be to learn general process and not how to manage a deathworld ( bit exaggerated ).

• I think it is not a problem to provide the player the option to use unergrounds/splitters. It makes things complicated way to complicated without them,
  exspecially the undergrounds. Btw: In the end I filled in the coal by my own too - It is not what the game really is made for.

• As I said I agree with your other points too.

My Solutions:

1. Less Biters or give the player more time to explore or even let him time to even start building

• Well of course: It would be great to add undegrounds

• In general dont make to much notifications and do not remove that many things to the player, that he would have in freeplay( for example crafting wires by hand) : The lots of notifications from the compilatron were a bit to much ( maybe it is not a problem to a newbie )

The rest is very great so far, the biggest issue in my eyes are the biters, it would make me happy to see a change.

Greetings Silver