The unloader pictured below was really nice to have, even if it didn't work in all directions. Now, it doesn't work in any direction.
It's borderline impossible to get a full 3 blue belts out of a wagon on one side when you have the buffer chests between the inserters.
I'm not complaining, since the design only existed because of a bug, but still sad to see it go.
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Re: Version 1.1.73
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:50 am
by ssilk
Re: Version 1.1.73
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:57 am
by DaleStan
The win64 incremental update for this release is larger (by less than 1MB, but still larger) than the complete portable win64 download. Is this just an unlucky coincidence, or did the incremental update accidentally include things it doesn't need?
The win64 incremental update for this release is larger (by less than 1MB, but still larger) than the complete portable win64 download. Is this just an unlucky coincidence, or did the incremental update accidentally include things it doesn't need?
That's not intended and was caused by an update of the compression tool we're using. It might have to stay like this for the weekend, will look into fixing the update file.
The unloader pictured below was really nice to have, even if it didn't work in all directions. Now, it doesn't work in any direction.
It's borderline impossible to get a full 3 blue belts out of a wagon on one side when you have the buffer chests between the inserters.
I'm not complaining, since the design only existed because of a bug, but still sad to see it go.
broken-unloader.png
I thought that design was no longer able to supply a full express belt when they switched express belts from 40 to 45 items per second. (Although I probably didn't test multiple orientations, so I probably missed any orientations where it continued to fill a blue belt).
Personally I have just accepted that that design maxed out at about 42-42.5 items/second, and just made sure to design for maximum average throughput of less than 42. (That is still better than the old limit of 40 items/second, and I never pushed the old limit over about 38).
(Note those figures were for my last vanilla game, which was probably when 1.1 was released. So I would have easily missed any changes since then).
The unloader pictured below was really nice to have, even if it didn't work in all directions.
I always clocked that unloader when I wanted maximum throughput; with clocked box-to-belt inserters it can still do three full belts. As a bonus, it'll do a much better job of unloading the buffer chests evenly. If 43.8 per second is close enough, you can set the hand limits on the far/near inserter pairs to 19 total. I used 12+7 here.
Re: Version 1.1.73
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:07 pm
by squiddog
Seems that in my case I cannot update to 1.1.73 from 1.1.72 (macOS). I have experimental releases checked, but even if I have it check for upgrades, it says it's up to date.
Download of the full release is going to take an hour even on my 1Gbit home line. The CDN is sloooooooow.
Seems that in my case I cannot update to 1.1.73 from 1.1.72 (macOS). I have experimental releases checked, but even if I have it check for upgrades, it says it's up to date.
Download of the full release is going to take an hour even on my 1Gbit home line. The CDN is sloooooooow.
The unloader pictured below was really nice to have, even if it didn't work in all directions.
I always clocked that unloader when I wanted maximum throughput; with clocked box-to-belt inserters it can still do three full belts. As a bonus, it'll do a much better job of unloading the buffer chests evenly. If 43.8 per second is close enough, you can set the hand limits on the far/near inserter pairs to 19 total. I used 12+7 here.
I thought I had tried clocking those inserters (probably back when 1.1 first released). Even with that I was unable to get 3 full belts. Can you shared a blueprint, or let me know what timing you are using for that?
I thought I had tried clocking those inserters (probably back when 1.1 first released). Even with that I was unable to get 3 full belts. Can you shared a blueprint, or let me know what timing you are using for that?
Each inserter swings once every 64 ticks, and each near/far pair starts their swings (much to my surprise) on the same tick. The near inserters could be delayed a few ticks, but I didn't worry about that.
