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Limit of Loaders

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Hello,
I’m currently playing Space Exploration + Krastorio 2 with Ultimate Belts (adds Belts with speeds up to 270 items/s) and noticed that loaders (from Loader Redux and Krastorio 2) can only transfer up to 120 items/s in and out of storages.
I suspect that loaders can only move 2 entities per tick and are therefore only capable of transferring 120 items/s.

I would be verry happy if someone could post a "fix" for one or even both Mods that makes loaders capable of moving 270 items/s.

Thanks in advance

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Xorimuth wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:18 pm
Good news! viewtopic.php?p=541875#p541875
Thank you, but im currently playing Factorio 1.0 and this Fix was added in 1.1.28.
Since this problem was already solved i dont want to steal your time.
Only if someone already wrote a fix for 1.0 or knows what to change would i be happy to recieve a solution. ;)
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Drachenreiter12 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:20 pm
Xorimuth wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:18 pm
Good news! viewtopic.php?p=541875#p541875
Thank you, but im currently playing Factorio 0.18 and this Fix was added in 1.1.28.
Since this problem was already solved i dont want to steal your time.
Only if someone already wrote a fix for 0.18 or knows what to change would i be happy to recieve a solution. ;)
There isn’t a variable to change or something like that, but you could try the miniloaders mod.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/miniloader
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Drachenreiter12 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:20 pm
Xorimuth wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:18 pm
Good news! viewtopic.php?p=541875#p541875
Thank you, but im currently playing Factorio 0.18 and this Fix was added in 1.1.28.
Since this problem was already solved i dont want to steal your time.
Only if someone already wrote a fix for 0.18 or knows what to change would i be happy to recieve a solution. ;)
stop playing an experimental release? 1.1.30 is marked as stable and it has game engine improvements for loaders. they are limited to 120/sec in any other version as a hard rule.. even if you add one that claims to do more.

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NotRexButCaesar wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:39 pm
There isn’t a variable to change or something like that, but you could try the miniloaders mod.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/miniloader
it no longer works in .18, they need to update.

my concern is they're just running a pirated copy.

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Drachenreiter12 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:20 pm
Xorimuth wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:18 pm
Good news! viewtopic.php?p=541875#p541875
Thank you, but im currently playing Factorio 0.18 and this Fix was added in 1.1.28.
Since this problem was already solved i dont want to steal your time.
Only if someone already wrote a fix for 0.18 or knows what to change would i be happy to recieve a solution. ;)
Well as you’re playing on 0.18, not only are you missing out on all the base game improvements since then, you aren’t going to be getting mod updates either, so no, the only solution is to update to 1.1.30, then open the mod tab and update all your mods to a 1.1-compatibile version.
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ptx0 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:45 pm
NotRexButCaesar wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:39 pm
There isn’t a variable to change or something like that, but you could try the miniloaders mod.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/miniloader
it no longer works in .18, they need to update.

my concern is they're just running a pirated copy.
Xorimuth wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:16 am
Drachenreiter12 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:20 pm
Xorimuth wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:18 pm
Good news! viewtopic.php?p=541875#p541875
Thank you, but im currently playing Factorio 0.18 and this Fix was added in 1.1.28.
Since this problem was already solved i dont want to steal your time.
Only if someone already wrote a fix for 0.18 or knows what to change would i be happy to recieve a solution. ;)
Well as you’re playing on 0.18, not only are you missing out on all the base game improvements since then, you aren’t going to be getting mod updates either, so no, the only solution is to update to 1.1.30, then open the mod tab and update all your mods to a 1.1-compatibile version.
First of all i own an legitimately on Steam bought Version of Factorio!

Second,i know and love the new base game features added in 1.1 and would love to play with them, but a few of the Mods we use were never Updated for 1.1 and we decided to play 1.0 with all the Mods we love.
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Drachenreiter12 wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:29 pm
Second,i know and love the new base game features added in 1.1 and would love to play with them, but a few of the Mods we use were never Updated for 1.0 and we decided to play 0.18 with all the Mods we love.
Mods for 0.18 specifically don't need to be updated for 1.0,
0.18 is the same internal API version as 1.0

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Even if the mods you use haven’t been updated to 1.1, you’ll probably find that someone has reuploaded them with fixes for 1.1, or you could put out a request for someone to. For someone with modding experience it would probably only take 5 mins to update a mod.
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ptx0 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:45 pm
NotRexButCaesar wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:39 pm
There isn’t a variable to change or something like that, but you could try the miniloaders mod.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/miniloader
it no longer works in .18, they need to update.
miniloaders never used loader mechanic, but internal inserters. Is that the same limit? (I did not use loaders since 1.5 years anymore, so i don't know)
EDIT: seems to be wrong
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jodokus31 wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:08 pm
miniloaders never used loader mechanic, but internal inserters. Is that the same limit? (I did not use loaders since 1.5 years anymore, so i don't know)
wrong - they also contain a 1x1 loader internally for the fact that it offers a bit of belt that ends within a single tile. but it is not used for transferring materials. instead, there's up to a dozen inserters that all grab from the loader TransportLine.

they have their own problems, but they seem a tiny bit faster now in 1.1.30. i haven't tested it.

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ptx0 wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:52 pm
jodokus31 wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:08 pm
miniloaders never used loader mechanic, but internal inserters. Is that the same limit? (I did not use loaders since 1.5 years anymore, so i don't know)
wrong - they also contain a 1x1 loader internally for the fact that it offers a bit of belt that ends within a single tile. but it is not used for transferring materials. instead, there's up to a dozen inserters that all grab from the loader TransportLine.

they have their own problems, but they seem a tiny bit faster now in 1.1.30. i haven't tested it.
ok, interesting.

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