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100% efficient payment process

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:52 pm
by Fahrradkette
Is it possible to buy the game by directly sending money to Wube?

I'm talking about wire transfer, where you enter an IBAN and directly send it from your bank account to Wube's bank account without having to suffer transaction efficency loss to payment processors.

All I could see on the factorio.com/buy page was an iframe pointing to humblebumble which probably acts as an efficiency loss, too.

Re: 100% efficient payment process

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:55 pm
by DaveMcW
No, and that is on purpose. They were being targeted by stolen credit cards and getting hit with chargeback fees.

Re: 100% efficient payment process

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:02 pm
by asheiduk
DaveMcW wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:55 pm
No, and that is on purpose. They were being targeted by stolen credit cards and getting hit with chargeback fees.
Non sequitur. The OP talks about sending money directly to Wube. Without any credit card in between. Hence no credit card fraud would be possible. Since the customer initiates the transfer there can be no chargeback also.

I also find it strange that there seems to be no effort to support SEPA transfers within the EU -- not especially from Wube but from any business.

Re: 100% efficient payment process

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:50 am
by Scotroll
Hi there. Thanks for the explanation, man. It’s really reasonable. Actually, I pay a lot of money for apps and games monthly. According to my ThePayStubs statistics, last month, I spent $245.53, including subscriptions like Youtube, Netflix, Google Drive, etc. It may seem to be big money, but actually, I use all the apps I use daily. Btw, I also pay for Adobe Apps and Creative Cloud. So, that’s it. Anyway, keep the topic updated on new changes. Thanks for the information once again. Best wishes.

Re: 100% efficient payment process

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:11 pm
by Hornwitser
An international wire transfer usually has a transfer fee in the € 5 range so even if you could do that it would be pretty terrible in terms of efficiency.

Re: 100% efficient payment process

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:33 pm
by aka13
asheiduk wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:02 pm
DaveMcW wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:55 pm
No, and that is on purpose. They were being targeted by stolen credit cards and getting hit with chargeback fees.
Non sequitur. The OP talks about sending money directly to Wube. Without any credit card in between. Hence no credit card fraud would be possible. Since the customer initiates the transfer there can be no chargeback also.

I also find it strange that there seems to be no effort to support SEPA transfers within the EU -- not especially from Wube but from any business.
Incoming SEPA transfers usually cost money for non-physical entities such as businesses, at least in Germany.

Re: 100% efficient payment process

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:48 pm
by asheiduk
aka13 wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:33 pm
Incoming SEPA transfers usually cost money for non-physical entities such as businesses, at least in Germany.
But I don't believe that the fee is 5€ per transfer -- even for business. SEPA was introduced to reduce the international fees within the EU. The rule of thumb announced was: A SEPA transfer (even international but within the EU) shall cost no more than a national transfer. National transfers (standard transfers at least) in Germany are in either free or in the range of 0.20€.

Re: 100% efficient payment process

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:01 pm
by mmmPI
https://thebanks.eu/articles/SEPA-payments-explained
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