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Optera wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:24 am

Ideally we'd get an indicator light on machinery like the new mining drills have.
Green: operating normal
Red: missing ingredient or output full
Yellow: no power

"No light" seems like a more natural indicator for "no power" in a hypothetical situation where all other states have indicator lights. But i'm not convinced that replacing all warnings by indicator lights is a good solution, especially considering colour blind people.

what about a yellow lighting with a red diagonal cross on it ?
It maybe hard to get that's a lightning that represent power but the red diagonal cross must be enough to convey the idea that something's missing.

color coding is nice but to better convey things one can also use the shapes to help with color perception, blue square, red triangle, green circle, yellow hourglass.

inserter are so small on the screen though it makes it hard to use the few pixel available to make something easily recognizable but the actual yellow triangle with the unplugged icon does it well, if only it wasn't blinking .

Optera wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:24 am

Ideally we'd get an indicator light on machinery like the new mining drills have.
Green: operating normal
Red: missing ingredient or output full
Yellow: no power

Sad_Brother wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:13 pm

Yellow as no output is better.

I think that's the default option when you use bottleneck mod.
It does just that, add a little light on each assembly (and chemplant or refinery but not inserter or combinator), green is working, yellow no output, red no input. Color that dot in grey or black for no power, assing a shape to each color and voila .

+1
No flashing should be an option at least for modder.

There are Mods which alter the icons and some who disable warnings completely - but there are no mods for "no blinking" because it seems to be hard coded.

And as stated before color coding is nice for me and maybe the devs, but shape is better for people with any kind of color-blindness.

By the way my color favorites for mashinery:
Green = normal operating
Yellow = output banks up
Red = Input missing
Black = No Power <-- This should make the complete building a bit darker because all of inner lights and sparkling ar off.

Yes, this would be nice. Or at the very least make the flashing a static icon. It's quite an unnecessary visual irritant at the moment. Sometimes I just want to power things off.

I also like that somehow, but beginners would not understand that.

ssilk wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:11 am

I also like that somehow, but beginners would not understand that.

I could imagine, that you dont need flashing to get beginners attention.
But Ok, Make it default blinking, and an option to change it to Static. Or just as modding possibility.

TL;DR

I want an option to disable the blinking of icons.

What ?

I want an option to disable the blinking of icons, most notably the Power warning icons.

Why ?

The blinking icon messes with my ability to focus. I have ADD and autism, and sorting impressions that doesn't need to be there is just needlessly draining.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/No_Power_Icons

I hope there will be something like this or better in vanilla some day.

Koub wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:47 pm

[Koub] Merged into older thread with same suggestion.

Seriously. This is an accessibility issue. Sure, I can play and have done so a lot, but it's more draining than it should be.

AlveKatt wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:30 pm

Koub wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:47 pm

[Koub] Merged into older thread with same suggestion.

Seriously. This is an accessibility issue. Sure, I can play and have done so a lot, but it's more draining than it should be.

No need to try and convince me, I'm just a moderator, my job is to keep the forums nice and tidy. The ones you need to convince are the devs .
Or you can use the mods that were created specially for that.

+1 for some improvements in this area. The blinking is obviously not necessary, and when things are intentionally turned off by a power switch it shouldn't display a warning at all. I hope this still gets fixed eventually...

Koub wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:43 am

[Koub] Merged a few topics with the same suggestion.
Note : there are also suggestions to have different behaviour when entities are unpowered because of a power switch.

Y U no link ? => viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62546

good link, +1 to both

This thread is about general option to remove/exchange flashing. The purpose is especially to reduce the ability to produce epilepsy. But there are some more options to achieve this. (*)

The linked thread is about handling the type of warning in power-switched networks.


(*) my favorite way is similar to what I suggested lately for trains:
viewtopic.php?p=548003#p548003
Non blinking icons on top of each device show the current state, like working, waiting for input, waiting for output, power drain/loss…
And the icons can be shut off if you learned the lights on top of the devices. The lights look like for the miners, perhaps a bit more obvious.


P.S. https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Emojitorio

ssilk wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:11 am

(*) my favorite way is similar to what I suggested lately for trains:
viewtopic.php?p=548003#p548003
Non blinking icons on top of each device show the current state, like working, waiting for input, waiting for output, power drain/loss…
And the icons can be shut off if you learned the lights on top of the devices. The lights look like for the miners, perhaps a bit more obvious.

I do not think that this will happen, considering that the assembler redesign appears to have been scrapped.

TL;DR

Please make an option to reduce or eliminate the repeating flicker on the map.

What ?

If you look at the map, it's in a ghost state, or there's no electricity connection, or no connection to the logistics network. Or, warning signs often flash for other reasons. As long as it's a small amount of one or two, that's fine. However, when you start to blink a lot, such as during large-scale construction, it strains your eyes.
This is especially critical when using mods or cheats that speed up the game.
So, it would be nice to have an option to integrate these blinks, or turn them off, or control them in some other way.
This is especially critical when using mods or cheats that speed up the game.

Why ?

My eyes are too tired.
Especially if you look at it for end game, you will get more tired.
It's even more lethal if you move into the late game and work mostly on the map.

This mod could help:
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/No_Power_Icons

Hopefully devs want to so something similar in the base game?

Here is a similar suggestion:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=28007