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Show chest with stack limitations

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:40 am
by ssilk
I would like to see in any way, that a chest has a set stack limitation (and about how much).
For example: a small rectangle, three dots in it, when any limitation is set. Like the display of a battery capacity, the dots have a function:

No dot is set : limit < 10% of chest stacks
One dot set: <33%
Two dots: < 66%
Tree dots: >66%

Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:00 am
by welens
My suggestion is simple - if I set volume limit on storage box I would want to see it.
Main problems - I build a mall and mostly limit boxes where items stored to one or two stacks.
But if I forget somewhere to limit I've got thousands useless oil ridges, active storage boxes, heat pipes, or in nightmare scenario - 480 nuclear reactors.
All I suggest - make visual mark on box (like we have when it connected to wire) when limit on volume is set.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:58 am
by ssilk
+1

Simple implementation (only graphics needs much thinking) and very high game value.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:32 pm
by Honktown
Would be nice. Like a red border on the chest/items if the box is limited. I've filled a steel chest with express splitters :(

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:53 pm
by kbk
+
Reddish dot in Alt-mode will be quite enough. A similar marking for filtered storage entities (like cargo railcars) would also come in handy so that less 'I accidentally my special storage' moments could happen.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:21 am
by ssilk
Hm. I thought about this:

A very small bitmap, where each pixel represents a stack in the chest. This is drawn as the background of the item(s) of that box in alt-mode.

- No item -> Transparent
- Stack with an item -> lightgrey or darkgrey (depending on configured background color, some color that can be seen, but not too much contrast
- Closed Stack -> Some redish color

If a chest has more stacks (mods), the bitmap is compressed in Y-direction.

Or similar idea: draw a border around the items in alt-mode, for a steel chest: top border line are the stacks 1-12, righ border line is 13-24, down 25-36, left 37-48. Or draw a circle, like a cake-diagram. It would also be enough to count only the rows, so a steel chest could be represented with 5 pixels.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:17 am
by welens
Hmm.. I've meant something much simpler, just small mark if restriction was set. :)
Something like this:
Steel_chest_entity-cross.png
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Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:39 am
by Koub
tbh I'd confuse this with the deconstruction mark. The indicators should be very different.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:07 am
by welens
Me too.
I just used restriction symbol from screen inside the box.
Ideally I see this as some sort of post label on the box:
korobka[1].jpg
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Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:19 pm
by welens
With new tooltip system I have small suggestion to add number of stack allowed being shown on tooltip.
Something like:
woodbox-tooltip.png
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Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:03 pm
by Trebor
welens wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:19 pm
With new tooltip system I have small suggestion to add number of stack allowed being shown on tooltip.
Something like:
woodbox-tooltip.png
+1

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:39 am
by Honktown
welens wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:19 pm
With new tooltip system I have small suggestion to add number of stack allowed being shown on tooltip.
Something like:
woodbox-tooltip.png
That's good, but it can't be seen without mousing over a box. The limitation in itself is what's important to me, and someone mentioned a red x looks like deconstruction, so a red square would be sufficient on the object. The tooltip could read "limited storage" or "storage limited", whichever mindset is easier.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:24 pm
by conn11
Excellent idea (like anything including more bottleneck-mod‘ish features in Vanilla) both the proposed tooltip and the visual representation in alt mode.
What about a bluish „item bar“ filling up (analog to the depleting health bar), if you set a stack limit the bar is drawn with a vertical pointer and the unused rest is for example greyed out. This should be an alt-Mode configurable feature of course.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:32 pm
by Trebor
conn11 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:24 pm
Excellent idea (like anything including more bottleneck-mod‘ish features in Vanilla) both the proposed tooltip and the visual representation in alt mode.
What about a bluish „item bar“ filling up (analog to the depleting health bar), if you set a stack limit the bar is drawn with a vertical pointer and the unused rest is for example greyed out. This should be an alt-Mode configurable feature of course.
If this is done, items in the reserved area should be represented by a bar in the grayed out part.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:05 pm
by ssilk
You know you can put items on blocked stacks? By hand or when you lower the limits.
So in any case: The limit says nothing about, how "full" a chest can be.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:40 am
by conn11
Trebor wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:32 pm
conn11 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:24 pm
Excellent idea (like anything including more bottleneck-mod‘ish features in Vanilla) both the proposed tooltip and the visual representation in alt mode.
What about a bluish „item bar“ filling up (analog to the depleting health bar), if you set a stack limit the bar is drawn with a vertical pointer and the unused rest is for example greyed out. This should be an alt-Mode configurable feature of course.
If this is done, items in the reserved area should be represented by a bar in the grayed out part.
After a quick Google search I had something like this in mind:
from fourjay.org
from fourjay.org
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Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:08 am
by conn11
ssilk wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:05 pm
You know you can put items on blocked stacks? By hand or when you lower the limits.
So in any case: The limit says nothing about, how "full" a chest can be.
At least manually overfilling chests with a set Stack size shouldn’t be that prevalent. But for such cases some visual indicators like proposed in this thread would be helpful.

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:28 pm
by jodokus31
+1
bump

Re: Make visible mark on boxes if the volume limit is set

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:58 am
by ickputzdirwech
[ick] Merged two posts about visual indication for limited chests.