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Fatmice wrote:

Light wrote: Angels always takes priority over Bob's, but the converter valve will revert the gas into Bob's or Vanilla if needed.

Any recipe that uses vanilla will automatically convert into Angel's version, but Bob's must use the valve.

What do you mean takes priority over Bob's? Angel replaces all of bob's recipes with Angel's variants?

Nexela wrote:That block of could should run as-is, the only thing you would need to change are the "up-strings".

Bobs library has some pretty awesome stuff in it.

if for some reason bob's oxygen doesn't exist then nothing will get changed. You don't have to do a bunch of logic checks outside of the initial bobmods and bobmods.plates just to make sure the library mod is available
well mostly, you might want to wrap your tech changes in an if check to make sure bob oxygen exists. (editing post above)

Light wrote: Bob requires the salt item + water to create hydrogen and chlorine.
Angel requires saline water from a hydro plant to create sodium hydroxide (item) and hydrogen and chlorine gasses via electrolysis. Salt no longer exists since the recipe is hidden.

The method is different but the Bob option is unavailable to you since you can't create salt anymore to use in a chemical plant.
Bob's recipe of using petroleum + water to create hydrogen is also removed in favor of synthesis gas into hydrogen and carbon monoxide as a byproduct.

If Angels is applied to an existing Bob's game, then all gasses must use the converter valve to become Angel's gas since none of Angel's recipes use Bob's version of the gasses. They're effectively removed to add more layers to the process, but also providing decent yields that encourage moderate size plants.

Fatmice wrote:

Light wrote: Bob requires the salt item + water to create hydrogen and chlorine.
Angel requires saline water from a hydro plant to create sodium hydroxide (item) and hydrogen and chlorine gasses via electrolysis. Salt no longer exists since the recipe is hidden.

The method is different but the Bob option is unavailable to you since you can't create salt anymore to use in a chemical plant.
Bob's recipe of using petroleum + water to create hydrogen is also removed in favor of synthesis gas into hydrogen and carbon monoxide as a byproduct.

If Angels is applied to an existing Bob's game, then all gasses must use the converter valve to become Angel's gas since none of Angel's recipes use Bob's version of the gasses. They're effectively removed to add more layers to the process, but also providing decent yields that encourage moderate size plants.

So do I need to worry about Angel's stuff too or will installing angel's + bob's will cause the former to take care of the latter and I only have to add data-updates for bob's?

Example setup of this

Converter valves are on the exit points of the structures to make it the Bob version of the gas.

Light wrote:
Unless you want to directly support Angel's mod, the converter valve can be used to turn Angel's gasses into Bob's gasses to still be compatible even if you don't.

Example setup of this

Converter valves are on the exit points of the structures to make it the Bob version of the gas.

Fatmice wrote:

Light wrote:
Unless you want to directly support Angel's mod, the converter valve can be used to turn Angel's gasses into Bob's gasses to still be compatible even if you don't.

Example setup of this

Converter valves are on the exit points of the structures to make it the Bob version of the gas.

So you already made data-updates? It seems you made bob's gases work for my recipes.

Light wrote:Speaking of decay rate, I did a test while I was out and returned to evaluate the result.

A reactor with 15 rods and one with 6 rods, 4.7% at 100% production for as long as it takes for the shutdown.

Reactor - 15 Rods
3:44 - 1 Rod (14)
3:45 - 1 Rod (13)
3:47 - 1 Rod (12)
3:50 - 3 Rods (9)
3:55 - 1 Rod (8)
3:56 - 1 Rod (7)
3:59 - 4 Rods (3)
4:00 - Reactor Shutdown

Reactor - 6 Rods
3:56 - 1 Rod (5)
3:57 - 3 Rods (2)
3:57 Reactor Shutdown

Sort of funny to see the one with more rods only lasted 3 additional minutes, but by the time 4 hours pass it's likely there's 30+ new rods waiting to be used anyway. Especially given they were 100% for all that time which is unrealistic.

So if there's anything I learned for certain, it's that babysitting the reactors is entirely unnecessary if you aren't endlessly taxing the grid for no reason. Plus fuel recycling may very well be purely optional which is kind of cool, as not everyone may wish to use it and just mine ores instead. Otherwise things work as expected

Light wrote: Decay Test #2

Reactor - 15 Rods
10:49 1 Rod (14)
10:51 1 Rod (13)
10:54 2 Rods (11)
10:59 1 Rod (10)
11:03 3 Rods (7)
11:06 1 Rod (6)
11:10 6 Rods (0)
11:10 Reactor Shutdown

Reactor - 6 Rods
4:19 2 Rods (4)
4:20 1 Rod (3)
4:20 Reactor Shutdown

Quite the improvement. Feels much better.

The only bug I can now find is destroying the reactor gives an error. Otherwise things operate quite smoothly.

TheDoctor89 wrote:Hey Fatmice, is your mod compatible with for instance, Nucular?

steinio wrote:Nice new updates.

The Coal Ash technologie was not locked in my game but i could research it anyway.

Could there be some forgotten code?

Greetings steinio

Fatmice wrote:

steinio wrote:Nice new updates.

The Coal Ash technologie was not locked in my game but i could research it anyway.

Could there be some forgotten code?

Greetings steinio

Let me check, but its prerequisite is steel-processing. So if you already research that in your game, I unlock the recipes for you for free...might have bungled something up though.

if force.technologies["steel-processing"].researched then
		force.recipes["coal-burning"].enabled = true
		force.recipes["coal-burner"].enabled = true
	end

for index, force in pairs(game.forces) do
				if force.technologies["steel-processing"].researched then
					force.technologies["uranium-coal-processing"].researched = true
				end
			end

Light wrote:Found a new bug by picking up the reactor fuel chest and all the rods became 100% life again.

Light wrote: This question has been on my mind after looking at the recycling recipes, but are MOX considered higher capacity (longer lasting) than 4.7%? It gives more spent fuel, so that's how it looks.

slaxer wrote:how long time do the fuel assemblies last (4.7%)?
does the higher %-age increase the time an assembly will last?

slaxer wrote: where can i change the value so it burns up quicker?