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After the rocket has been launched, maybe we could add a new section of the production that could be used to provide resources to the early settlers.

Since the addition of agriculture additional content, i was wondering if the basic resources could be used to provide the opportunity for production of consumption based products, like food products, medicine , and industrial products and machines like tv, fridge , cars etc.

Although i think i might be getting too excited and getting carried away by the idea, but atleast the addition of the existing machines like cars and corn could be used for direct trading and supplying.

The scope of this thing is large , as the petrochemical industry which barely has as much utility as it could , will truly blossom.

The power production in this game could be used to provide resources. The idea is to sell surplus power and gain resources in exchange. Its almost like earning reputation, only its fairly faster,and the output it much larger .

This aims at selling the surplus energy(tertiary) in exchange for a more usable resource, like the "pink balls"

To add a little depth we can have the output and machines vary in size, with larger machines giving more profit .
An addition of penalty system and fixed output could help spice up things. It aims at running with some resource as an input, DRAWING the power from the system as "primary" (or secondary or tertiary ,based on the machine type) and if the demand is not met ,the output is nil, making it a loss. And large addition in output if demand is met(the profit)

i dont mind the 100 MW, its the 5 MW drain(when not using) that i find mismatched.
Also about power,let me give u an example from ur recipe
transmuted uca 2 from m A2
it takes 60 sec at 100 MW per sec

if u run it with accumulators storing 3 GJ of energy(which is also the fuel value), the process only gets to about 50%.
so to make 3 GJ energy, u need 6 GJ energy.
the same goes for other recipe,there is 50% fuel reduction.
i dont mind the reduction itself, but 50% is too large, 5 to 10% would be better. {From result side its -100% power}

in comparison, one coal can provide enough electric power to mine over 50 coal(electric drill). that would be 50,00% increase.
even with the manual drill its +700%

i think that the tech tree should be more intractable. And the idea of bringing new tech should be an amazing one.
but there is some issue there i guess. i doubt it will be done any time soon, cause it has some troubles in that sections. some,(actually many )mods once loaded in the game dont support changes, and unless the devs find some way to deal with this, adding a new tech might be an issue.

None the less, i would really like the idea in action.

Colonist actually refers to people moving in. I was going in reference to the scenario that after we send off the rockets, more humans want to settle on our planet, and come to the planet.
we provide them with the stuff. But story aside, the concept remains the same

And i am super excited for the new addons, the one TO DO u mentioned

i meant it like a power plant.Put the switching stations and send out the power for profit(money/resource)


I would like to add something in this section. Its about ur coal and wood recipes.

coal dust actually would have more PRACTICAL fuel output value

powdered coal has higher exergy, it can burn faster and provide more energy in the same amount of time.
Rather than converting it to a solid form again, i think it would be better to convert it into a charge that could be used to directly burn at the generator. Something like burning the petrol.

I dont know what ur plans are about venturing in the fluid side of the power plant, so could u let us in on your plans on the liquid/fluid handling

I dont think its the right section to add this idea. but since other similar ideas are in this section so i am gonna add it here.

i am under the impression that all the fuel in "agriculture" section is aimed for the "engine" section, which has insane output, so that works out, but if ur going to rmp down the engine output, then the recipe in the agriculture sections needs to be tweaked

I think that corn should be treated as half wood, with fuel value of 2 MJ(or 1.5). if u dont want the corn to be used as a fuel that's fine too, but the wood being produced in this manner is way to expensive. Same goes for rabio. you need to understand that one corn cycle is 300 sec, and a good amount of it is going to be used to reproduce this.

at that level, u barely get any fuel at all.




calculation for value

1 wood = 6 trifitan = 20 corn +40 cane =86.67 corn (rough)
considering 500 corn per cycle -80 for reproduction(20 corn+60 cane)

420/86.67<5
which is less than 5*4=20 MJ energy.

taking cane value of 2MJ
12+40=52*2=104 MJ to 20MJ

it doesnt gets over the energy used to run the 50KW machine

i think 120 trifitan would be the lower limit. And if ur generous , make the wood to Trifitan 1:1 or even lower

at 1:1(wood to trifitan)
we get
104 MJ+36 MJ machines =140 MJ gives >>(200 MJ for 1:6) and 1200 for 1:1

1200 MJ for 400 sec gives 3MJ per sec



rabio
70 corn+40 cane = 42+40=82*2=164 gives 80 MJ (not adding the machine time,)

in corn 70+66.67 =136.6 corn per cycle
420/136.6 =little over 3
3*80=240 MJ

Setting the output at 5 rabio should be good

240*5=1200, again getting 3 MJ per sec



So setting rabio at 5 and wood 1:1 and 120tri in recipe should do the trick