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Metalface7 wrote:Is it possible to obtain the new artifacts from regular biter and spitter spawners? I'm playing with lower alien base frequency and richness settings than the default (with RSO) and all I've gotten are the vanilla and small vanilla artifacts. I saw in a youtube series that the player was getting all colors of the new artifacts from all spawners, but that was also an earlier 0.12 version of factorio.

TheSAguy wrote:

Metalface7 wrote:Is it possible to obtain the new artifacts from regular biter and spitter spawners? I'm playing with lower alien base frequency and richness settings than the default (with RSO) and all I've gotten are the vanilla and small vanilla artifacts. I saw in a youtube series that the player was getting all colors of the new artifacts from all spawners, but that was also an earlier 0.12 version of factorio.

Do you have new artifacts enabled in the config?
By default it should be, but check it out.
(Config Mod)

Metalface7 wrote:

TheSAguy wrote:

Metalface7 wrote:Is it possible to obtain the new artifacts from regular biter and spitter spawners? I'm playing with lower alien base frequency and richness settings than the default (with RSO) and all I've gotten are the vanilla and small vanilla artifacts. I saw in a youtube series that the player was getting all colors of the new artifacts from all spawners, but that was also an earlier 0.12 version of factorio.

Do you have new artifacts enabled in the config?
By default it should be, but check it out.
(Config Mod)

They are enabled. That was the first thing I checked. Would the Rescaled Evolution Factor mod change things at all?

Edit: tried removing RSO, and it worked. The issue appears to be that RSO is preventing Bob's spawners from being generated.

Arch666Angel wrote:

Metalface7 wrote:

TheSAguy wrote:

Metalface7 wrote:Is it possible to obtain the new artifacts from regular biter and spitter spawners? I'm playing with lower alien base frequency and richness settings than the default (with RSO) and all I've gotten are the vanilla and small vanilla artifacts. I saw in a youtube series that the player was getting all colors of the new artifacts from all spawners, but that was also an earlier 0.12 version of factorio.

Do you have new artifacts enabled in the config?
By default it should be, but check it out.
(Config Mod)

They are enabled. That was the first thing I checked. Would the Rescaled Evolution Factor mod change things at all?

Edit: tried removing RSO, and it worked. The issue appears to be that RSO is preventing Bob's spawners from being generated.

Are you using an older RSO version? Because it works with everyone else

crysanja wrote:something funny.

biters fighting each other !
guess it happens when an aoe from a spitter hits another spitter/biter.
does not happen that often, but i have seen it.

orzelek wrote:It seems that only way to prevent this currently is to make sure that enemies don't do aoe.
Since enemies can attack obstacle they have trouble pathing around it leads to big civil wars

   -- check for civil war 
    if event.force ~= nil then
        if ((event.force.name == "enemy") and (event.force.name == event.entity.force.name)) then
            if NE_Enemies_Config.allowCivilWar then
                -- let the enemy die but prevent loot drop
                event.entity.destroy()
            else 
                -- check if player or player things are near the area of combat
                local playerBattle = false
                local battleRadius = 60
                local playerObject = event.entity.surface.find_nearest_enemy({position = event.entity.position,
                                                                              max_distance = battleRadius,
                                                                              force = "enemy"})
                if playerObject ~= nil then
                    playerBattle = true
                end
                
                -- get bitters that have been affected by splash damage
                local deathRadius = 8
                local enemyEntities = event.entity.surface.find_entities_filtered({area = {{x = event.entity.position.x - deathRadius, y = event.entity.position.y - deathRadius}, 
                                                                                           {x = event.entity.position.x + deathRadius, y = event.entity.position.y + deathRadius}}, 
                                                                                   force = "enemy"})
                if not playerBattle then
                    -- kill around dead enemy to quell war
                    for _, enemyEntity in ipairs(enemyEntities) do
                        if (enemyEntity.type == "unit") and (enemyEntity.has_command()) then
                            enemyEntity.destroy()
                        end
                    end
                else
                    -- retarget each splash affected bitter to enemies first, then they might turn on themselves once everything around them is dead
                    local searchRadius = 60
                    for _, enemyEntity in ipairs(enemyEntities) do
                        local newTarget = event.entity.surface.find_nearest_enemy({position = enemyEntity.position,
                                                                                   max_distance = searchRadius,
                                                                                   force = "enemy"})
                        if newTarget ~= nil then
                            if (enemyEntity.type == "unit") and (enemyEntity.has_command()) then
                                enemyEntity.set_command({type=defines.command.attack, 
                                                         target=newTarget})
                            end
                        end
                    end
                end
            end
        end
    end

Boogieman14 wrote:I haven't even figured out where Angel's mods have hidden away the gems, so upgrading those turrets is still a bit of a challenge too

Boogieman14 wrote:At 82% evolution my Mk1 defensive laser turrets are really struggling to keep the waves under control. Also, with all the splash damage, roughly one lamp blows up every few minutes (I like to have my defensive wall well lit ). Also, not sure if it's RSO, Bob's or just base game updates, but I find biter expansion has become really aggressive. I've been clearing nests in the area regularly, but every so often I find a new nest that set up camp almost on my doorstep. Robot army is a welcome addition to this game (although squads of 50 terminators are already getting wiped out rapidly now ) And at 80% evolution, I haven't even figured out where Angel's mods have hidden away the gems, so upgrading those turrets is still a bit of a challenge too

Boogieman14 wrote:Also, not sure if it's RSO, Bob's or just base game updates, but I find biter expansion has become really aggressive. I've been clearing nests in the area regularly, but every so often I find a new nest that set up camp almost on my doorstep.