When some part of the Factory is idle (and it's happens, as it's difficult to balance everything and this balance shifts almost constantly) it consumes idle-mode power. For example all Assembling Machines (1 to 3) have idle mode power equal 1/30 of the active mode power (75+2.5 kW / 150+5 kW / 375+12.5 kW). With maximum of efficiency (-80% power consumption) this portion becomes tangible 1/6 (150*0.2=30+5 kW / 375*0.2=75+12.5 kW). On early stages of the game this consumption is minuscule and can be easily ignored, but when beacons come into play it's no longer the case.
Illustration of Active+Idle Power
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Me being a perfectionist, it was an itch in my side until I came up with a solution to this problem. I've been testing it for some time (successfully imho) and now I'd like to share my idea with everyone. It's a bit tricky to set up, as you have to make sure different parts of factory power network are isolated behind Power Switches which is controlled by Decider Combinators which in turn has permanent access to power.
Illustration of Network Isolation
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Power Switch Up Close
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The key concepts leading to the solution are a buffering and a hysteresis. If you want to save power you have to turn off access to it for idle buildings. But you can't allow them being turned on and off rapidly, otherwise bad things happen. Here to the aid comes the hysteresis: it ensures the buildings work as long as there is enough resources to work with and there is space to transport products to (no shortage and no belt backup). The hysteresis also ensures power is turned off as long as conditions are not satisfied to the point production can run smoothly for some time. For these conditions to be satisfied reliably (and to detect the fact) the buffering is required.
Illustarion of Ealy- and Midgame Science Buffer
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So, the Factory splits into blocks. Each such subfactory works on one single product (and maybe one or two prerequisite subproducts as is the case for Green and Red Circuits) and has buffers for every input and for output. The best way to organize a buffer is to use an array of chests with fast or bulk inserters to ensure throughput. This meshes really good with train network buffering. In case of very low in/out throughput or as a "quick and dirty" buffer a long (and/or curvy) patch of belt will do too (make sure all belt cells connected to the network read content as hold, not pulse).
All these buffers are connected into a single Circuit Network and their signals come into a Decider Combinator that controls the Power Switch for an entire subfactory. To organize the hysteresis the Decider Combinator must have a feedback on a different (color) network (see third the illustration above). The logic inside Decider Combinator is as follow: it starts to output ON signal if there is enough resources and space for product and continues to output ON as long as it still true (see next illustration). This logic is produced by one OR gate (that combines two cases) and a bunch of AND gates combining comparisons of Circuit Network signals from buffers with predetermined constants. Also, the second OR gate input depends of feedback signal to ensure the hysteresis. Specific numbers in comparisons depend on type and size of buffers (and on throughput in case of "dirty" belt buffers). Here is the example:
Illustration of Gate Logic Inside a Combinator
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As you can see, ON conditions split into two parts. The starting conditions in the top half are hash and in the bottom half are much milder, but depends on ON signal already being present (feedback). This ensures the hysteresis. Output buffer is 6 Wooden Chests, that can contain up to 9.6k of Blue Circuits, so I decided to limit it at 9k and 1/3 of this value is enough of free space to begin a new production cycle. This means output buffer has to contain less than 6k of product.
This concept can be applied to power productions. When you are gradually switching from steam power to solar one with accumulators you may not want you Steam Engines to produce energy as long as there is enough charge in your accumulator stack. But they will output power into power network as long as there is power deficit and will keep you accumulators fully charged. It may be preferred behabiour (in case your defences are laser turrets) or may be not. In case not you can isolate your steam power network into separate part, connect it to main network through Power Switch and govern this switch with Decider Combinator with feedback, hysteresis logic and signal from nearby accumulator. Once accumulator charge deeps too low (preferably not zero) gate logic connects steem power network with main one and it starts produce additional power. Once accumulator charge is high enough (due to buildings being turned off, solar panels online or just steam power overpowering all the consumers) login breaks the connection. This works very well with nuclear power.
Here is the blueprint of two such subfactories (Green and Blue Circuits) close to each other, connected to train network and feeding one into another in case they work simultaneously (to save train fuel and thoughput). Into the design of them have come a lot of considerations of belts and inserters throughput balanced against consumption and productions rates of Assembling Machines with Beacons and Modules as well as rationality of using productivity modules on different stages of the game (as well balanced against energy and fuel consumption), but these are topics for another discussions.
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By the way, I just love v.2+ Combinators! With how Devs implemented them in new version of the game it became so much easier and natural to make all the logic described above than it had been before.
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Re: Saving Power (and Fuel) with Decider Combinator
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 7:10 pm
by angramania
Dude, please discover nuclear or solar energy. You are good in optimizing but you optimize wrong things. From some moment energy is abundant and de-facto cost nothing. UPS is not. And powering off is bad for UPS. Also the most part of your factory should always work, there is no sense to turn it off. If it is not a case for your factory then you should start with optimizing this moment and not the power.
Re: Saving Power (and Fuel) with Decider Combinator
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 9:44 pm
by quyxkh
Powering down can save UPS if you drain buffers and idle inserters before powering the subsection, but that doesn't work if you're using belt backpressure to stop production since the unload inserters will never sleep, the stuff in the picture will save power but last I looked will also drain UPS 'cause those inserters trying to unload have to be checked every tick.
So the way i learned is shut off the supply, wait for the outputs to clear, power off, that does work well but it can take minutes. Run the factory to refill the delivery buffers and shut it off in time for the dregs to completely clear the internal ones. It's probably worth testing at scale for 2.0 if nobody's done it yet, probably some lua work to make the testing scale-up go all smooth.
I don't see anything wrong with being _able_ to shut off stuff if you get way ahead of the game on plastics or whatever, like, to get all the modules you want it's good to build them fast, right? So now everything's got four S3s (just to annoy the OP ), now what do you do with all the factories? Right: shut them off until you open another surface. Which cascades to the supplies for all those processing units… and once you *can* do this, dude, do it. Because you can.
I mean, I get it about "save power? what, you don't have a 56×56-substation accumulator field all charged up, and ploppable time-for-another-GW nuc plant bps?" but arranging auto-power-{down,up} cycling is just cool.
), now what do you do with all the factories? Right: shut them off until you open another surface. Which cascades to the supplies for all those processing units… and once you *can* do this, dude, do it. Because you can.