So what have stopped 48% of brave Gleba's conquerors? Problems on Vulcanus and Fulgora after Gleba? Difficulties of space platform design? Or maybe Gleba is so good that there is nothing more interesting after it?
yes, exactly the latter one for me. I went Gleba -> Vulcanus -> Fulgora which I ...

Over a thousand hours in the base game. Dozens of factories and dozens of build concepts.
Over 40 hours in the expansions already. Loving the space platforms, Vulcanus, Fulgora...

Then I got to Gleba. 5 hours later, I'm done. I'm just done. I f%#&ing hate spoilage. Absolutely hate it. The only ...

As a fellow Gleba disliker, I tend to disagree, that it is hard to debug a Gleba factory. I'd say it's just that it is the first factory after oil, which can fail by running long enough.
I'd say, as soon as you get the concepts going, it's fairly reasonable. The only couple of times where it did ...

See my previous post about a sudden burst of spoil out of nowhere.

There's some detail you might miss about nutrients, spoilage and biochambers. Spoiled nutrients can accumulate invisibly during normal operation in a separate spoilage slot in addition to the regular temporary trash output ...

Add an alarm if it gets there.

Alarms for the levels of fruits in the chests.
The amounts in the logistic network.
Whether the machines are always running, if they are expected to.
Seeds levels (when empty and when full).
Nutrients level for these critical chests/machines.

An alarm when spoilage ...

My problem is not that I am trying to get better at setting up a factory on Gleba. It is the lack of feedback from "what should have happened vs. what went wrong" and how to improve on the factory's flaws to prevent them from happening again.

A good approach for Gleba is to not let something ...

I would disagree. The information you have and we don't is the actual layout and underlaying assumptions leading to it.
Some of them could be gleaned from the design implementation. You shared some of the assumptions in the abstract.

I shared the factory and the production chart in the abstract ...

When I initially tested some defense strategies on Gleba, I found that very little to nothing about defending against biters/worms was applicable to Gleba natives.

A defense perimeter of turrets and walls? Stomper walks over the wall and potentially becomes aggressive due to the presence of ...

Post Script:

While writing those posts, I was running a new design for a factory on Gleba in the background while not watching it.

I was using the following recipes: Agriculutural Science Packs, bioflux, yumako processing, jellynut processing, pentapod eggs, and nutrients from bioflux; all ...

Look, speedrunning is an exercise in complete mastery of a game. If you are worried that your gleba factory breaks you need to get better at gleba, not have the game made easier for you. Spoilage is entirely deterministic, theres no randomness fucking you over. If your approach to not do bacteria ...

I've seen this issue described here multiple times, and my reaction is always the same.

You absolutely can build up Gleba step by step, I know because I did. The automation challenge of Gleba is to deal with spoilage in your factory, i.e. every chest, belt, machine that deals with spoilable ...

I am going to explain the "why" of pausing and restarting Gleba Production in depth here. I thought I had provided enough details for others to understand, but apparently, not.


You just scale up production of rocket parts on Gleba... just like you do with every other part of the game.

Huh? That ...

I will selectively respond to comments that I feel are important to talk about.


Have you actually played Space Age all the way through yourself, or are you just making all of this up? I'm get the impression that you haven't actually played the game, yet.

So yeah, you haven't even played the game ...

This is getting slightly out of hand. I will split the content across several posts this time seperately by subjects, starting with the lack of visibility on the Factorio community's slightly negative sentiment on Gleba.


A "Signifcantly large majority of the community?" Really? Where do you get ...

I didn't say I found the aesthetic of paving the entire world pleasing, I said I paved my factory area to make it easier to see. I shouldn't have to do this, nor should any player. I consider it a clunky workaround.

The aesthetic of concrete was meant as a figurative of speech.

Paving everything ...

I will be looking into bringing both base-game and Space Age to Nintendo Switch 2. For base game I will try to make sure it takes advantage of the better hardware in backward compatibility mode, if possible.

This is not a confirmation, it's still very early days. I'm just letting you know it's ...

I've been busy defending Gleba as a concept so I wanted to address your specific listed points:

Okay, so far, a good start.



Terrains are challenging to discern where I can build/grow or can't.

Terrain: I wholeheartedly agree without reservation. I like neither the confusing color of the ...

When I finally had access to and time to play Factorio on the day of its release while traveling, I jumped ahead to Gleba to experiment with and understand its new mechanics. I tested various factory configurations in the editor or theory, and no matter what I did, problems existed that only ...

I wanted to add my cents to the conversation in this thread.


The number of people unhappy with Gleba compared to those who are happy with Gleba is a purely subjective measurement. Just because one individual thinks Gleba is in a good place while a few individuals provide negative criticism does ...

After the 10th or 15th attempt i finally got him :mrgreen: .... At YT (Nilaus) he just took 3 shots with that shells
https://youtu.be/qs76dTFSUvw?si=zbSp7f1fdhricteC&t=599


Yeah, having a non-trivial amount of physical damage modifier/bonus from repeatable technology helps to overcome the HP ...