What happens when I put in 170 times whatever the initial one costs?

(also 1G is way more than I would expect anyone to ever do)

No, the simplest is to just upcycle the minerals at the mines, that's the least complexity. It's much easier than space casino, and much more UPS efficient, just overall better in every aspect in late game once you have so much productivity level it trivialize the ressource cost. It just can't ...

2833680766 wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 2:35 pm Hello, everyone. I am back.

I think you should read the thread I linked earlier. People have already gone through the calculations you are doing.

I freaking hate quality.

Ok? i absolutly hate it, I would have love that we need to speend the same amount of resources we currently do but we get 100% whatever we want because it's not quality i hate, but how it was implemented, aka GAMBLING.

You need to squint really hard to see quality (once ...

Could you just copy the world and work on that?

Is you want to have a cap you should look at https://mods.factorio.com/mod/productiv ... logy-limit

h.q.droid wrote: Mon Feb 16, 2026 3:38 am I think a more fair n is between 1.5*0.25 (EM plant / foundry without quality in maker)...

I think there would be modules of some kind in the maker though?

Check out viewtopic.php?t=125262

So people who bring flying robot frames and green chips wouldn't get it?

The mixture of water and ammonia is eutectic. That means water is liquid when it is part of the solution, and freezes into ice when separated. If you throw ice into an ocean of solution, the ice will dissolve.
And by the way, water ice would drown in pure liquid ammonia. For a solution it depends ...

Something like what you are asking for here is already doable with just interrupts. Not sure why such a complicated new entity would be needed.

The issue with this is recipes that dynamically change quality (ie: circuit network setting recipes).

Derp, completely forgot about the whole 'rockets need iron' thing. You're right about that. (my thought process had actually been that you just, ship all the stuff needed to build a rocket to Gleba, but uhh, that would be mightily expensive...)

If you've done Vulcanus or Fulgora before Gleba ...

It's been a year and this anti-automation still hasn't been fixed... Allow us to control thrusters with circuits as well.


For the thrusters thing I would recommend controlling pumps with circuits. I don't really see a problem with that.


Yes that's how everyone does it but every machine ...

Twisted6 wrote: Sat Dec 20, 2025 8:04 am It's been a year and this anti-automation still hasn't been fixed... Allow us to control thrusters with circuits as well.

For the thrusters thing I would recommend controlling pumps with circuits. I don't really see a problem with that.

I think it would be a positive change, but sometimes I do want to look at what a train is doing without interfering with it.


I don't get it. You don't need to click the button to look at the train. In fact if you see the button, you are already looking at what the train is doing.


It is ...

I think it would be a positive change, but sometimes I do want to look at what a train is doing without interfering with it.

For anyone wondering about quality seeds growing into quality fruit see 124678. Every variation of it I can think of is on there.

Energy consumption also affects the pollution produced by a machine. The formula is
total pollution = pollution multiplier * energy usage multiplier * base pollution

Hope this helps.

boskid wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 12:37 pm

crimsonarmy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 12:35 pm Purely for my own curiosity, why does the oil ocean version work?

Because underground connections are only blocked by lava tiles and empty space tiles. Oil ocean does not block underground connections.

Makes sense. Thanks for humoring my curiosity.