Hey, I've started playing with Industrial Revolution 1.0.2 and just got to the iron age, but I've noticed that there's no iron ore in my starting area. Is this expected? The closest iron ore to my start location is a long way away. Given that iron is required to build trains & rails, I'm not rea...

Yeah, seems crazy difficult to get enough glass. My starting quartz patch has room for about 2 crystal mines, so it's going to be slow going until I get to trains to bring in more quartz.

Is it just me or is the early game with PyRO pretty brutal? Having power poles take 16 seconds each to craft is a real drag, and the 10 iron ore -> 1 plate over 15 seconds ratio is pretty rough also. I feel like I'm never going to make it to the fun stuff at this rate.

@kingarthur do you have a sense for which Bob's mods are made the most redundant by PyRO? Like maybe we should skip Bob's Ores and Bob's Plates but keep the rest?

MOAR everything. I hope people like that big work. Ive seen pyMods arent much played.

I think it just takes time to get the word out. I'm planning a big PyRO playthrough over Christmas (if it's out) for a bunch of Factorio veterans, and I was surprised none of them had heard of pyMods before.

What's the philosophy for merging Bob's Mods? I'd personally want to avoid having two different ways of making stuff, e.g. I wouldn't want to choose between making Coke the Bob way or making it the pY way (I'd want the rule to be "just drop the Bob recipes when they have equivalents in PyRO&quo...

If I can just share a balance concern: it seems possible that the higher tier processing for stuff like iron might not be worth it. You can do a whole lot of steps to get high grade iron, or you can just build a bunch of crushers, which is easier and will probably take up less space. This is a probl...

Hey, I just started playing this mod with bob's mods, so maybe this a dumb question, but it seems like the crafting time for Wood is 15 seconds now? Is that expected? Having stuff like electrical poles take forever to craft is kind of unpleasant.

Hi, what are the correct ratios for steel? I'm seeing 1 steel plate as requiring 2 iron plates or 3 iron ingots -> 1 steel ingot -> 10 molten steel. This seems like a bug because the metallurgy version is basically strictly worse at those rates.

I guess 'immediately quit to desktop' might be a better description than 'crash', although the difference is kind of subtle.

I had another one yesterday when changing a keyboard shortcut in the controls section of settings.

Game crashed again after clicking the 'pollution' overlay button on the map view. Had been playing without putting the game in the background for at least 30 minutes before this.

Log: https://gist.github.com/thurn/b1ee73647 ... b677864cd2

To what extent can I just take one of the existing highly-ranked 4-way intersections and delete parts of it to get a good 3-way intersection? Does the throughput generally carry over?

Here's another one: https://gist.github.com/thurn/038fe77ff ... e124f670c0

This was from the main menu screen after keeping the game in the background for a long time -- could be related to backgrounding the app.

Hey, I'm doing a playthough of all Angel's mods with the new Marathon-esque game settings introduced in 0.15 for expensive recipes and technologies. It seems that in this mode Ore Sorting is now much worse than directly smelting crushed ore, because e.g. Saphirite sorting requires 6 crushed Saphirit...

I can't get this to reproduce consistently, but it's happened 3 times to me this morning. After playing for a while, I'll go to adjust the master volume and the game just immediately exits to desktop when I click 'Back', with no indication that a crash even happened. Logs don't seem to have anything...

hi, is there a version of this post for 3-way intersection throughput also?

I think there are a few holes in what should be allowed to have a productivity module applied to it right now, but... While you're at it, what is the deal with which fluids are considered intermediate products? Like, Ammonia and Nitric Oxide are not intermediate products, but Nitrogen Dioxide is? I...

Hi, I'm getting this error in the 'remove stone' function with Factorio 15.30/FARL 1.1.6: https://i.imgur.com/59DyBGk.png I get that error after a few seconds of driving with mostly default settings. Adding "if product.probability ~= nil" seems to fix it. Using Bob's Mods, Angel's Infinite...

I haven't got an active save right now to show you, but the best tool I've ever found for this kind of thing is Helmod (https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Helfima/helmod). The UI is pretty awful, but you can input your goal (e.g. 1 science pack/second) and it will compute what inputs you need, how many ...

I'd like to look at some savefiles for megabases in the multiple rockets-per-minute range, mostly to check out how they set up things like the train network. Is there a good source for finding this kind of thing?