pY Alien Life - Discussion

[mrbaggins]

Came to write the same thing.It's right where I'm up to lol

[kingarthur]

Came to write the same thing.It's right where I'm up to lol

its fixed for you though now right?

[mrbaggins]

I updated yesterday or the day before... let me check my version

Edit: Yeah, I only had 1.9.7. I'll assume fixed in 198.

Edit2: Looks right. Gotta make some ulrics now.

[mordras]

There is a deadlock with the Arqad Honey.

Py Science Pack
Requires Good Alien Sample
Requires DNA Polymerase
Requires Arqad Honey

Arqad Honey is unlocked by Arqad - Stage 2 which requires the Py Science Pack to research.

release version 1.9.8 should fix it

Thanks for this fix. Unfortunately, it looks like to make the honey I need my initial Arqad Empty Honeycombs. Those require Wax which is part of Arqad - Stage 2. So it still looks like it is deadlocked.

[kingarthur]

There is a deadlock with the Arqad Honey.

Py Science Pack
Requires Good Alien Sample
Requires DNA Polymerase
Requires Arqad Honey

Arqad Honey is unlocked by Arqad - Stage 2 which requires the Py Science Pack to research.

release version 1.9.8 should fix it

Thanks for this fix. Unfortunately, it looks like to make the honey I need my initial Arqad Empty Honeycombs. Those require Wax which is part of Arqad - Stage 2. So it still looks like it is deadlocked.

there should be a recipe to get wax from bhoddos spores, ralesia and oleochemicals

[mordras]

there should be a recipe to get wax from bhoddos spores, ralesia and oleochemicals

Ah thanks. I didn't look for recipes that created a Wax Barrel.

[factoriogame1121]

Hello. Do I understand correctly? A neuroprocessor is required for the production of the Py Science Pack. The neuroprocessor requires optical fiber. Fiber requires aramid at some point. For aramid, a molybdenum plate. To open the production of molybdenum plates, a technology is needed that requires a Py Science Pack. Dead end?

[kingarthur]

Hello. Do I understand correctly? A neuroprocessor is required for the production of the Py Science Pack. The neuroprocessor requires optical fiber. Fiber requires aramid at some point. For aramid, a molybdenum plate. To open the production of molybdenum plates, a technology is needed that requires a Py Science Pack. Dead end?

uh. maybe. just to confirm this is just py and not abpy or anything right?

[futilityd]

Hello. Do I understand correctly? A neuroprocessor is required for the production of the Py Science Pack. The neuroprocessor requires optical fiber. Fiber requires aramid at some point. For aramid, a molybdenum plate. To open the production of molybdenum plates, a technology is needed that requires a Py Science Pack. Dead end?

Interesting. I've never created a py science pack (still working towards it). I somehow have Advanced Mining Facilities and Molybdenum Processing researched, even through both now require py science packs. My guess is that maybe at some point they only required red and green science, and now they also require py science? Otherwise I don't know what's going on with that.

[kingarthur]

Hello. Do I understand correctly? A neuroprocessor is required for the production of the Py Science Pack. The neuroprocessor requires optical fiber. Fiber requires aramid at some point. For aramid, a molybdenum plate. To open the production of molybdenum plates, a technology is needed that requires a Py Science Pack. Dead end?

Interesting. I've never created a py science pack (still working towards it). I somehow have Advanced Mining Facilities and Molybdenum Processing researched, even through both now require py science packs. My guess is that maybe at some point they only required red and green science, and now they also require py science? Otherwise I don't know what's going on with that.

ya i just dug into the history. looks like its new and was added 3 days ago

[kingarthur]

Hello. Do I understand correctly? A neuroprocessor is required for the production of the Py Science Pack. The neuroprocessor requires optical fiber. Fiber requires aramid at some point. For aramid, a molybdenum plate. To open the production of molybdenum plates, a technology is needed that requires a Py Science Pack. Dead end?

Interesting. I've never created a py science pack (still working towards it). I somehow have Advanced Mining Facilities and Molybdenum Processing researched, even through both now require py science packs. My guess is that maybe at some point they only required red and green science, and now they also require py science? Otherwise I don't know what's going on with that.

ya i just dug into the history. looks like its new and was added 3 days ago

ive uploaded a new version of pyal to fix that.

[error0664]

there should be a recipe to get wax from bhoddos spores, ralesia and oleochemicals

Ah thanks. I didn't look for recipes that created a Wax Barrel.

lol the wax barrel caused me also a LOT of troubles to find : )
some month ago i did think 'modules' where the thing to find out for py AL but i think this one tops everything
i really spent some time with this 'deadlock' that is none

[host65]

Is there a way to get Moondrop when playing without PyHT?

[mrbaggins]

Anyone hitting issues trying to add Modules to machines in Helmod at the moment? If I try to put animal modules (specifically Arqad and Ulrics) into their building in helmod, the screen suddenly shrinks and the module side disappears, it doesn't get added, and an error is logged from helmod to the chat about referencing a nil value.

I know it's probably a helmod issue, just curious if anyone else has seen it.

[kingarthur]

Anyone hitting issues trying to add Modules to machines in Helmod at the moment? If I try to put animal modules (specifically Arqad and Ulrics) into their building in helmod, the screen suddenly shrinks and the module side disappears, it doesn't get added, and an error is logged from helmod to the chat about referencing a nil value.

I know it's probably a helmod issue, just curious if anyone else has seen it.

ya ive noticed it as well. if you close helmod and reopen the window its set correctly with the modules so it seems to be some kind of ui update issue so its still usable just annoying.

[mrbaggins]

Anyone hitting issues trying to add Modules to machines in Helmod at the moment? If I try to put animal modules (specifically Arqad and Ulrics) into their building in helmod, the screen suddenly shrinks and the module side disappears, it doesn't get added, and an error is logged from helmod to the chat about referencing a nil value.

I know it's probably a helmod issue, just curious if anyone else has seen it.

ya ive noticed it as well. if you close helmod and reopen the window its set correctly with the modules so it seems to be some kind of ui update issue so its still usable just annoying.

I managed to make a single module work, but couldnt set all of them (even using the Ctrl shortcut). I'm installing 11.20 now so keen to see if it fixes it.

[mrbaggins]

What animals do folks use for products these days? I obviously need Korlex's for milk... Trying to plan things out and green and red science seems awfully close to the wire in terms of efficiency (EG: sea sponges barely give ANY extra output until you pyscience them to use tailings instead).

And do you make a little farm for each thing? Like an ulric farm for guts, an ulric farm for meat, an ulric farm for blood, or do you just split them up from a single farm?

[smick]

How far do you plan on taking your base is the question I'd figure out first. If you plan on a rocket with satellite expect a decent size facility of practically each life form. I'm working on completing utility science at the moment and the base is immense.

[mrbaggins]

I got through all blue and py science last time, using vanilla trains and no logistics. I restarted with 1.0 release and have had red and green finished for a while, and I'm getting close to having good alien samples done to get the next batch of critters and plants for py science.

I am intending to finish. Surprised you need everything though.

[ShadowGlass]

You don't need literally everything, but it's pretty close. I think you need all types of plants and shrooms, but the amounts will vary greatly. You won't need all the animals though. You'll need those which have special parts (unless you bioprint), and one for each of the main parts. They don't have to be all different, I use Xyhiphoe both for arthropod blood and guts.