Version 0.14.2

[Klonan]

Indeed.
Apple sets the pace in industry design & development and PC users are lagging always 20 years behind.

[Weresmilodon]

Yup. Pretty much my reaction too.

[tmzasz]

only thing apple sets the pace of is how fast money leaves your wallet

[tehroach]

Automatic update on a stone age 2008 MacBook worked flawless
I duly hope the rumor comes true and the long awaited upgrade for the line, the 2016 macBook Pro will ship in early October.
I stand ready with my wallet.
Has anybody more info on any news for a upcoming MacBook Pro?

Offtopic much?

Only a little Important will be if the new Apple OS "Sierra" most probably introduced in October will be compatible with Factorio - or vice versa
Sorry...

LOL!

Sorry I find this a little on the funny side

Only Mac users seam to have this worry!

ie will my cable I bought with the last Mac work with my new Mac, which then results in "dam! they changed the pin configuration again"
mean while PC guy finds 20year old VGA cable in shed, plugs it in and it just works

Indeed.
Apple sets the pace in industry design & development and PC users are lagging always 20 years behind.

Bahahaha
Don't knock old hardware, if it still works and does the job, because "It still works and does the job"

No need to upgrade just because the spirit of SJ tells me too

besides it wont be till 2020, before a $6000 Power Mac will be released with the equivalent specs to compete with my current $2000 PC.


--EDIT--
Oh! WOW, I didn't realize when I originally wrote this, just how many people had already beaten me to the punch line

[brunzenstein]

besides it wont be till 2020, before a $6000 Power Mac will be released with the equivalent specs to compete with my current $2000 PC.


--EDIT--
Oh! WOW, I didn't realize when I originally wrote this, just how many people had already beaten me to the punch line

Probably the 2008 black PC cable works still today on a dusty PC but certainly not a single standard out of the box 2008 PC "still works and does the job".
"tehroach's" statement is, with all due respect Sir, wishful thinking and not reflecting real world experience. Thats a unicorn on a cloud. I have yet two see any standard, not upgraded or anyhow mended vintage out of the original box dated 2008 PC running Factorio smoothly today under the 2016 Windows version.

My, one from a single block of aluminium carved out (not cheaply pressed) 2008 MacBook runs the most recent 2016 Apple OS "El Capitan" 10.11.6 with elegance and Factorio like a breeze. I did not invest a penny since 2008, change or upgrade anything on the Mac besides I installed two times weak batteries and gave it once a bigger harddisc.

And yes - also the elegant slim white magnet save release power cable on my MacBook (not the clunky black fat unintelligent PC one) works too...

So Apple seems to be a pretty good long term investment even for small purses - if you dare to give the matter a good hard look.

PS: For any forward looking change in the connector wiring there is always a adapter from Apple available.
So the long term value of a Mac is like a good old whiskey. Getting better by the day.
By the way - my fanless (soundless) Mac cube bought 2000 (standing in the museum of modern art) is still woking in my office as Fax server. And if I would switch on my 1989 SE/30 he would still come alive and still run - ok the floppies are no more but basically I could write a letter like on a Underwood. If I would sell it I could get nearly the price I paid for - try to sell a vintage PC.

[malecord]

So it's true: if you run a multiplayer game with at least one irish player on Factorio 0.14 4 Mac, all the other european players playing on mac pay only 0.005% of the total cost of recipes, fuel and electricity.

I find this design choice very questionable guys.

[matjojo]

So it's true: if you run a multiplayer game with at least one irish player on Factorio 0.14 4 Mac, all the other european players playing on mac pay only 0.005% of the total cost of recipes, fuel and electricity.

I find this design choice very questionable guys.

kek'ed

[brunzenstein]

So it's true: if you run a multiplayer game with at least one irish player on Factorio 0.14 4 Mac, all the other european players playing on mac pay only 0.005% of the total cost of recipes, fuel and electricity.

I find this design choice very questionable guys.

Me not.
That's the way healthy capitalism works according to the rules set by private shareholders (in a general hostile socialistic environment like the EU) within a given legal state framework. Its the core duty of any CEO to find the most profitable but still legal way to pay the least possible taxes, do business profitable and increase the shareholders value. Thats what a company in a free world is about and Apple has done - thanks god, in order to survive. Thats how modern "Marktwirtschaft" functions - unless you dwell in North Korea. Finer morality views have no value in a brutal commercial theater.
Nowadays problems stems not from to less taxes paid but by illegal use of mountains of taxpayers money by incompetent bank, fat government and EU bueurocrats.
Actually, to give any state crook more money is a subsidies of illicit business

[malecord]

What are you blabbering about? It has nothing to do with the difficulty of the game. It's just that in this way the game is unbalanced for windows and linux players. Why has only the mac release to receive the special treatment?

Wube should gief the 0.0005% hack to everyone or remove it from the game.

[Loewchen]

So it's true: if you run a multiplayer game with at least one irish player on Factorio 0.14 4 Mac, all the other european players playing on mac pay only 0.005% of the total cost of recipes, fuel and electricity.

I find this design choice very questionable guys.

Me not.
That's the way healthy capitalism works according to the rules set by private shareholders (in a general hostile socialistic environment like the EU) within a given legal state framework. Its the core duty of any CEO to find the most profitable but still legal way to pay the least possible taxes, do business profitable and increase the shareholders value. Thats what a company in a free world is about and Apple has done - thanks god, in order to survive. Thats how modern "Marktwirtschaft" functions - unless you dwell in North Korea. Finer morality views have no value in a brutal commercial theater.
Nowadays problems stems not from to less taxes paid but by illegal use of mountains of taxpayers money by incompetent bank, fat government and EU bueurocrats.
Actually, to give any state crook more money is a subsidies of illicit business

All of this would be quite worrisome, but then I just relax while swimming in a milk lake or climbing a butter mountain.

[brunzenstein]

Why has only the mac release to receive the special treatment?

Because Apple is more beautiful - and beauty and elegance comes with priority always first

[ChurchOrganist]

Hehe - you'll be telling us next that there'll be a trickle down effect from Apple users to PC and Linux!

[tehroach]

Probably the 2008 black PC cable works still today on a dusty PC but certainly not a single standard out of the box 2008 PC "still works and does the job".

Seriously your making my sides hurt, you can't seriously believe this?
If you are serious!
How much would you like to wager on this claim?
and how much do you have to lose?
any chance for an all in?
because I would really love to own a holiday house in Vienna

while yes the power cables will definitely work, but they have remained unchanged from the first PC XT, also an old kettle cord will do in a pinch.
However the VGA cable that I referred to was actually the one that I used on my old 6x86 back in the mid 90's.

"tehroach's" statement is, with all due respect Sir, wishful thinking and not reflecting real world experience. Thats a unicorn on a cloud. I have yet two see any standard, not upgraded or anyhow mended vintage out of the original box dated 2008 PC running Factorio smoothly today under the 2016 Windows version.

Well I don't know about 2008 but I have 2 from 2007 sitting right behind me that play Factorio smoothly.
However I am super unsure of how you expect any device out of the box from 2008 to be running a 2016 OS?
Apart from the fact there is no "2016 Windows version"

My, one from a single block of aluminium carved out (not cheaply pressed) 2008 MacBook runs the most recent 2016 Apple OS "El Capitan" 10.11.6 with elegance and Factorio like a breeze. I did not invest a penny since 2008, change or upgrade anything on the Mac besides I installed two times weak batteries and gave it once a bigger harddisc.

9 times out of 10 if you drop it the screen breaks.
the other time, it is the "cheap" plastic and pressed steel deforming that saves the screen from cracking.
Hmm!
I am not quite understanding the last sentence in your paragraph.
Did you or did you not upgrade it?
Or does replacing dud parts and HDD's not classify as an upgrade?
I bet you would have upgraded the RAM too!
If it wasn't for the fact that it is soldered to the Mobo :PC

And yes - also the elegant slim white magnet save release power cable on my MacBook (not the clunky black fat unintelligent PC one) works too...

I never knew that Apple developed an AI program to operate a magnet?

So Apple seems to be a pretty good long term investment even for small purses - if you dare to give the matter a good hard look.

I am quite pedantic when it comes to selecting my hardware, but I am yet to come across an instance where Apple are just not blown out of the water in a "bang for your buck" contest.

PS: For any forward looking change in the connector wiring there is always a adapter from Apple available.

You do realize the only reason they change the pin configuration in the first place is so they can sell said adapter.

So the long term value of a Mac is like a good old whiskey. Getting better by the day.

remind me "never to drink your whiskey"
as you must leave your whiskey standing upright with the lid off.

By the way - my fanless (soundless) Mac cube bought 2000 (standing in the museum of modern art) is still woking in my office as Fax server. And if I would switch on my 1989 SE/30 he would still come alive and still run - ok the floppies are no more but basically I could write a letter like on a Underwood.

For the most part a house brick could serve all the same valuable functions as these two boat anchors.

At least we can agree on the Art part as I would definitely classify most Apple products as Art.
As they tend to serve no other purpose other than their perceived beauty.

If I would sell it I could get nearly the price I paid for - try to sell a vintage PC.

This phenomenon has always puzzled me as to why Apple-fanboys can get suckered so easily.

[kovarex]

Can you please move this *very interesting* debate somewhere else?

[SpaceMushroom]

Can you please move this *very interesting* debate somewhere else?

Ahhhh... offtopic, ok.. but I was having so much fun....

[brunzenstein]

Can you please move this *very interesting* debate somewhere else?

Ahhhh... offtopic, ok.. but I was having so much fun....

Yeah - it was funny indeed.
No pun was intended. Sorry it has to end.
I would have had a lot more ammunition to throw around as branded "Apple Fan Boy".
Actually, the only thing I could do as Apple user and absolute PC illiterate with a PC would be throwing one out of a open (ok, also closed would do) window.

Anyhow - this little good pure fun was restricted by the master of Factorio and it has to end now, its his (a little dry, funfree) blog ....