[2.0.11] Vulcanus Lagspikes

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[2.0.11] Vulcanus Lagspikes

Post by Grob »

Hey !

Not really a bug, but some performance problems, seems you put theme here..?

I just went in Vulcanus, after Gleba and Fulgora.
Game was quite smooth, and suddendly there are some drops at 20-30 UPS. Not fully unplayable but if it's that laggy before Aquilo, I'm not sure I can handle endgame...

I was on 2.0.9 (or 8?) when lagspike happened, updated on 2.0.11 since, lagspikes hold.

I don't have the best computer ever, but still I could handle a lategame Nullius without it being unplayable.

On show-time usage I find 75% is on entities.
For entities, I find most of it is
- inserters. Ok fine.
- Turrets : well, I have only 8 lasers on Gleba and some 20ish on my 3 interplanetary ships ; but maybe the collector is a turret ?
- SmokeWithTrigger : I have to admit I don't really understand what this one is doing. I did uncheck every rendering stuff that could slow down FPS or UPS in game settings tho... I supposed it was related to any stuff that do smoke, like chimney and sulfur geyser, but even after removing the first and placing pumpjack on the second, lag is still there.

I relaunched the game before making ticket so I also put previous .log file. Maybe I relaunched twice ; in that case I probably don't have anymore the moment when it started.

Is there something I did more wrong than usual ? Or my computer is worse than expected and I should upgrade ?

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System:
  Kernel: 6.8.0-45-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.0
  Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.2.9 Distro: Linux Mint 22 Wilma
    base: Ubuntu 24.04 noble
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HUAWEI product: MACH-WX9 v: M11
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HUAWEI model: MACH-WX9-PCB v: M11 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: HUAWEI v: 1.37 date: 05/12/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.0 Wh (96.6%) condition: 32.1/56.3 Wh (56.9%)
    volts: 7.8 min: 7.6 model: DYNAPACK HB4593R1ECW-22T0 status: not charging
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-8250U bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Coffee Lake rev: A cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1227 high: 1276 min/max: 400/3400 cores: 1: 1200 2: 1200
    3: 1252 4: 1200 5: 1245 6: 1276 7: 1245 8: 1200 bogomips: 28800
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Huawei driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-9.5 bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] vendor: Huawei driver: nouveau
    v: kernel arch: Maxwell bus-ID: 01:00.0
  Device-3: Cheng Uei Precision Industry (Foxlink) HD Camera
    driver: uvcvideo type: USB bus-ID: 1-7:4
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915
    resolution: 3000x2000~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,swrast platforms:
    active: x11,surfaceless,device inactive: gbm,wayland,device-0
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.0.9-0ubuntu0.1
    glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 620 (KBL
    GT2)
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Huawei
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3
  API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-45-generic status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 vendor: Huawei driver: iwlwifi
    v: kernel bus-ID: 3c:00.0
  IF: wlp60s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB
    bus-ID: 1-5:3
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 4.2
    lmp-v: 8
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 190.87 GiB (80.0%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Toshiba model: N/A size: 238.47 GiB
    temp: 50.9 C
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 233.18 GiB used: 190.86 GiB (81.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 14.4 MiB (2.8%) fs: vfat
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Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 12 GiB used: 4.04 GiB (33.7%) file: /swapfile
Sensors:
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  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est. available: 7.51 GiB used: 6.13 GiB (81.6%)
  Processes: 311 Uptime: 1d 7h 26m Init: systemd target: graphical (5)
  Packages: 2253 Compilers: gcc: 13.2.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.21 inxi: 3.3.34
Attachments
Première run.zip
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factorio-previous.log
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factorio-current.log
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Re: [2.0.9/11] Vulcanus Lagspikes

Post by Genhis »

Thanks for the report. It seems like you are reaching the limit of your system. Your GPU and CPU are well below minimum requirements for Space Age. There is nothing we can do I'm afraid. You could try disabling some graphics options to reduce the lag a bit.
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Re: [2.0.9/11] Vulcanus Lagspikes

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Genhis wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:49 am Thanks for the report. It seems like you are reaching the limit of your system. Your GPU and CPU are well below minimum requirements for Space Age. There is nothing we can do I'm afraid. You could try disabling some graphics options to reduce the lag a bit.
I also noticed a drop in UPS on vulcanus, I notice there are many entities called smokewithtrigger, that takes long time to update, what was that ? and is that necessary? :shock:
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Re: [2.0.9/11] Vulcanus Lagspikes

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Rei wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:02 pm I also noticed a drop in UPS on vulcanus, I notice there are many entities called smokewithtrigger, that takes long time to update, what was that ? and is that necessary? :shock:
GFX department gets overboard with effects sometimes. As far as I know, it is for demolisher movement effects. If it's severely affecting your performance, please post a screenshot with "show-time-usage" and "show-entity-time-usage" debug options enabled, as well as your save file.
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Re: [2.0.9/11] Vulcanus Lagspikes

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Genhis wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:44 pm
Rei wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:02 pm I also noticed a drop in UPS on vulcanus, I notice there are many entities called smokewithtrigger, that takes long time to update, what was that ? and is that necessary? :shock:
GFX department gets overboard with effects sometimes. As far as I know, it is for demolisher movement effects. If it's severely affecting your performance, please post a screenshot with "show-time-usage" and "show-entity-time-usage" debug options enabled, as well as your save file.
It is not affecting performance though. But it takes the longest update time. Even when I'm on another planet and no buildings are in area contains demolisher.
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