Is bitter pathing always been so broken when aggroing tons?

[StoneLegion]

So I been screwing around with friends trolling around. I ran around a massive lake and almost no bitters followed though the chunks were active. I went back most the bitters were stalled even though the chunks seem to be loaded. I also noticed a lot of bitters fighting other bitters. I would report this as a bug but I don't know if this is just sadly how the AI breaks down when you start training 1000's of bitters?

[taiiat]

'training' ? sounds like a Mod.

if you're using a Mod to do things you can't normally (like make Enemies into pets), then it's 50/50 at best of fault to the game and the Mod.
Factorio can't really adjust it's programming to fix bugs or problems that only occur with Mods. as that's a potentially infinite length list.

[DaveMcW]

train = line of monsters pursuing you (from old MMORPGs)

Yes, the game has a strict limit to how much pathfinding is allocated to biters. If you wake up too many they will be unable to move.

Biters attacking biters is a bug, you should report it if you can find a reliable way to reproduce it.

[cdp181]

'training' ? sounds like a Mod.

if you're using a Mod to do things you can't normally (like make Enemies into pets), then it's 50/50 at best of fault to the game and the Mod.
Factorio can't really adjust it's programming to fix bugs or problems that only occur with Mods. as that's a potentially infinite length list.

I believe he just means agro'ing lots of biters and running away causing a "train" of biters to follow him, ie training biters.

[StoneLegion]

train = line of monsters pursuing you (from old MMORPGs)

Yes, the game has a strict limit to how much pathfinding is allocated to biters. If you wake up too many they will be unable to move.

Biters attacking biters is a bug, you should report it if you can find a reliable way to reproduce it.

Thanks the 2nd part is much rarer but sometimes after training big bases into other big bases and dozen more or so I go back they fighting sometimes not doing anything but standing still..

I also notice chunks sort of stay open their AI deciding what to do and kind of derps up.

[Adil]

When biter encounters an obstacle, it attacks it if cannot get around.
Maybe, they were blocking each other.

[taiiat]

i see... 'train' isn't a Verb so therefore the confusion.

[lpw]

i see... 'train' isn't a Verb so therefore the confusion.

It kinda is. With the meaning of forming a "train" of biters.

[reallyLost]

i see... 'train' isn't a Verb so therefore the confusion.

It kinda is. With the meaning of forming a "train" of biters.

I don't believe that you will find that definition in any dictionary.

[TheTom]

i see... 'train' isn't a Verb so therefore the confusion.

It kinda is. With the meaning of forming a "train" of biters.

I don't believe that you will find that definition in any dictionary.

You do - it is MMORPG slang. It also is used for some sexual practice. So, sorry, you do find it in SOME dictionaries.

[bobucles]

But train is being used as a verb. In older MMOs a PvP/ganking tactic is to anger a pile of mobs, stroll across the map, and dump them onto another player. A player is meant to only fight 1 or 2 enemies at a time, so dumping a dozen on them is analogous to hitting someone with a train. You can see those players dragging a line of mobs behind them, further endorsing the train image.

Factorio players are already intimate with the concept of getting "trained". Choo choo!