The Hydra Dilemma - A Coop Factorio Playthrough!

[Infectum13]

I enjoy this series. If Fishsandwitch wants payback for the pranks -root has pulled on him perhaps he should try to convince FKODgaming to do something. Afterall more pranks would probably make the series more entertaining assuming it isn't something repetitive like leaving pockets full of pebbles every time (as opposed to just the first time).

Perhaps my playstyle is different but it seems like everyone just crafts what is needed for the task at hand. When it comes to things like splitters, underground belts, inserters, and assemblers I craft a minimum of 15 at a time unless I'm limited on resources. That way I'm not held up by crafting stuff so often.

Stuff I am waiting to see play out

Next time the player has to go into combat since the player has almost no ammo. The last person in combat commented on it and did nothing about it other than stealing some from a turret and then putting it all back in the turret later.

Also how long it takes people to notice sulfuric acid production got subtly screwed up by fish when he removed an underground water pipe and didn't fix it.

I think a lot of time we are trying to just get some stuff built and adding to the overall building design.

[Infectum13]

It's funny (and very frustrating) to see all of you ending your episode by placing the avatar next to what you where doing so the next one can have a hint on what to do....

... and then the first thing done in the following episode is to go as far away as possible without looking at your feet

I talked to Xterminator on Skype and we talked about that fact. Hopefully he will realize when he plays after me.

[safan]

except that this time you made a "prank" of it and put him nowhere he needed to be

i feel you see this more as a sabotaging game then a coop ...

[ssilk]

This is about entertaining, and I mean without him this playthrough would be a very little kind of boring. What did I laugh about the oil barrels ! They are so useless. This is indeed the only reason why I'm watching this, because it is fun to see, how the next react.

Infectum13, you are the wildcard!

[JoshLittle]

I think I may have ruined his last prank....oops, LOL.

Oh man, you ruined the whole escalation

(but I think root has enough in the pipe to fire it back on )

[JoshLittle]

What did I laugh about the oil barrels ! They are so useless.

Nope, they are not
Only this barrel at this time was useless.. and a lot of fun

[JoshLittle]

Episode 17 - Monumental Building

So according to this episode it should be totally possible to take a stack of money, drive it around the block and be rich after it because it increased glamorously

[Infectum13]

except that this time you made a "prank" of it and put him nowhere he needed to be

i feel you see this more as a sabotaging game then a coop ...

I don't think I've been sabotaging this game at all. This is the first time I've purposefully done a prank in the game. And I still did build on my turn as well But I can see your point.

[Infectum13]

This is about entertaining, and I mean without him this playthrough would be a very little kind of boring. What did I laugh about the oil barrels ! They are so useless. This is indeed the only reason why I'm watching this, because it is fun to see, how the next react.

Infectum13, you are the wildcard!

Glad to hear that we are able to entertain. I laughed a lot when I went back and watched everyone else. I think next to recording, I look forward to that the most. Going back and watching the videos.

[Infectum13]

I think I may have ruined his last prank....oops, LOL.

Oh man, you ruined the whole escalation

(but I think root has enough in the pipe to fire it back on )

After I watched FishSandwich's episode, I realized what I did. Ironically, Root does kinda win, LOL

[Infectum13]

What did I laugh about the oil barrels ! They are so useless.

Nope, they are not
Only this barrel at this time was useless.. and a lot of fun

What are barrels used for? I don't see them being used so far. Everything is done through pipes it seems.

[Infectum13]

Episode 17 - Monumental Building

So according to this episode it should be totally possible to take a stack of money, drive it around the block and be rich after it because it increased glamorously

Yes.

[JoshLittle]

What did I laugh about the oil barrels ! They are so useless.

Nope, they are not
Only this barrel at this time was useless.. and a lot of fun

What are barrels used for? I don't see them being used so far. Everything is done through pipes it seems.

My solution for the spreaded single oil spills is to use a pump jack, an assembler, a requester (of empty barrels), a provider (for filled barrels) two inserters and a bit of power. In my main oil area is a requester for filled oil barrels which are going into another assembler, which pumps it into the crude oil tanks and the empty barrels are provided back into the logistic system.

So the barrels are good for logistic transportation and for transportation on belts. And in some sense also for input buffering for the oil processing. A storage tank can handle 1,000 units of oil on a surface of 9 tiles. A chest can handle 480 barrels (stack size = 10) x 25 units = 12,000 units of oil, therefore 9 chests up to 108,000 units. Equal to 108 storage tanks! If the surface in an issue, then 40 steel (= 40 barrels) for 1,000 units of oil storage (instead of a storage tank which needs only 5+4 (in iron) = 9 steel) becomes cheap. 108 / (40/9) = a 24.3 better factor of storing oil (ignoring chests, inserters, pipes and pumps)

Edit: Oh sorry, I got the 1,000 from the outdated wiki instead of the game itself. A storage tank can handle 2,500 units. Therefore the factor is "only" 9.72 but still very good.

[Infectum13]

So the barrels are good for logistic transportation and for transportation on belts. And in some sense also for input buffering for the oil processing. A storage tank can handle 1,000 units of oil on a surface of 9 tiles. A chest can handle 480 barrels (stack size = 10) x 25 units = 12,000 units of oil, therefore 9 chests up to 108,000 units. Equal to 108 storage tanks! If the surface in an issue, then 40 steel (= 40 barrels) for 1,000 units of oil storage (instead of a storage tank which needs only 5+4 (in iron) = 9 steel) becomes cheap. 108 / (40/9) = a 24.3 better factor of storing oil (ignoring chests, inserters, pipes and pumps)

Wow. That definitely makes barrels more useful then. Then I would imagine you can use storage tanks as buffers while you pump more oil into barrels.

[Blackence]

Also, I think barrels are the only way to transport oil by train or in the player's inventory (and using logistics bots, like JoshLittle mentioned). So it's not only nicer for storage, it's also more flexible because it's just a standard item like iron or electronic circuits. I think I've deleted (mined) one oil tank in my first playthrough and wondered what happened with the oil that was stored in there. I guess it vanished. So the oil tank storage is also more dangerous than a chest full of barrels.

I have not used them in any game so far, so I'm not sure. The only time I crafted a barrel was in my first playthrough, for the same reason that Infectum crafted some of them. I want to start a game using this nice ressource spawner mod and hope that some barrels come in pretty useful for that kind of map.

[Xterminator]

Adding And Upgrading - Factorio The Hydra Dilemma #18 is now live! I don't build a ton of knew things, but manage to finish up what the person before had started ( at least I think so), and upgrade some other things. As usual, after watching the other's videos I realize I didn't notice a lot of what they had done.. >.> I really need to pay more attention LoL

Hope you all enjoy, and can't wait to see your comments and reply!

Spoiler

Watch till the very end, I left a little surprise for the next people...

[FKODgaming]

Episode #19 is live here: http://youtu.be/jdVwmTS8E_0

Thanks for watching everyone!

[-root]

My turn

[JoshLittle]

Episode #19 is live here: http://youtu.be/jdVwmTS8E_0

Thanks for watching everyone!

You began good and ended good... but (16:50)

I leave those two cole miners down there just as kind of a backup thing

That is why you
a) left them on the full side of the belt (so they only start to produce if solid fuel runs out and they have to keep up for the only steamline (the other will have no solid fuel when they work) and the iron and copper smelting on their own)... and
b) gave them no power
?

And one more a little thing (7:00): Splitters don't merge equally on full lines, they prefer sides. You can see it at 11:11.

At 7:20 they belt was not full enough to cause problems at the intersection. But it's good to see a better way of doing it instead of worring on balancing a 3/4 empty belt.
And perhaps in the future someone will make fast corners (on input instead of only fast outputs) (11:30)

[FishSandwich]

-root's video is up, he hasn't posted the link yet.

Just to let you guys know that I haven't gotten the save from -root yet and I can't record tomorrow because it's my girlfriend's birthday. Sorry about that everyone.

Edit: FKODgaming will be taking my day, and I will be going after him.