[2.0.15] Quality and parameters in blueprint

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[2.0.15] Quality and parameters in blueprint

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It has happened to me when copying electromagnetic plants and assigning a parameter to the recipe. When using the blueprint and changing the parameter to another quality, it does not accept it and assigns the quality with which it was copied.

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Re: [2.0.15] Quality and parameters in blueprint

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Yeah, there are some weird interactions between quality and parameter system. I've tried to recreate your problem in 2.0.16 and it would appear that instead of just ignoring the quality you select later it simply doesn't show you the quality selector at all. I've tested it a bit more and here's what I found out.

This is what happens in 2.0.16:



So, what's going on here?

1. If you build a machine and select a normal quality recipe, then blueprint it and parametrize the recipe, the default parameter shows the icon without quality and when you click to change it, you can select signal & quality.
2. If you change that signal to a parameter and select a different quality, the parameter quality is properly shown in the "value" field.
3. Using that blueprint and placing it gives you the option to select the parameter value (recipe), but without quality - the quality selected on the parameter is used.
4. Now we get to the weird part. If you blueprint a machine with higher-than-normal quality and parametrize that blueprint, the default recipe parameter value doesn't show the quality, but clicking on it to change it doesn't give you the quality selector - you can select any signal, but it will always show in the "value" as no-quality, and it will actually use that blueprint's starting recipe quality. Placing the blueprint will also not give you the quality selector.

I've downloaded 2.0.19 and it looks to be doing the same thing as 2.0.16, with quality not being shown on the value field and quality selector not letting you choose different quality on parameter if copied recipe had above normal quality.
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Re: [2.0.15] Quality and parameters in blueprint

Post by Nyghtbrynger »

That is indeed the case. There is a limit to how parameterising works. I expected for a quality item to be its own separate recipe
Here you can see me try to bypass the issue by creating a new blueprint per quality level.
Here you can see me try to bypass the issue by creating a new blueprint per quality level.
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here there is my blueprints. i need to create one per quality level because a quality item isn't even its own kind of item that would set all parameters to the right recipe or filter.
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Yeah, the quality level is set at the blueprint creation be it for assemblers or inserters' filters.
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Here is an example of assembler where I input Qual Module III - Legendary quality as a recipe
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Re: [2.0.15] Quality and parameters in blueprint

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RanaPeluda wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:52 pm It has happened to me when copying electromagnetic plants and assigning a parameter to the recipe. When using the blueprint and changing the parameter to another quality, it does not accept it and assigns the quality with which it was copied.
I'm also get this weird situation when trying parametrize blueprint with EM. Seems all break when some of item use another quality. I'd change mine blueprint manually and it begun work like an assembly

if you interested, here is my blueprint:
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