You obviously use the method that works best. That's why balance is important so that the tradeoffs lead to varied factory designs that are actually competitive.


Indeed. And I think that currently solar and acid neutralisation are well balanced on Vulcanus: if you have spare space, build ...

This makes no sense thematically. The Biochamber building represents a “Caged Pentapod”, which is being force-fed nutrients in order to perform a biological process. This is a bit of a stretch for the Oil cracking recipes, but it makes some sense.

The Furnaces’ smelting process turns Stone into ...

What?
Make the biochamber able to perform the stone brick recipe.

Why?
Stone bricks can only be made in electric furnaces, which have 2 module slots and no innate productivity. This weirdly inflates their cost in the endgame because all the other intermediates have gotten large productivity ...

Yeah but your point in the first post is that it is source of infinite quality ore that's easily scalable, so i think the suggestion is not good, because it will still be possible to have infinite quality ore easily scalable.

For the scalabality, you can always duplicate platforms, but it cost ...

Yeah but your point in the first post is that it is source of infinite quality ore that's easily scalable, so i think the suggestion is not good, because it will still be possible to have infinite quality ore easily scalable.

For the scalabality, you can always duplicate platforms, but it cost ...

That would result in the same consequence no ?
Why can't i use quality for my crusher ? because other players used it to make legendary asteroid ? seem a pretty lame reason to me. When you will be able to upcycle the iron ore and copper ore instead of the asteroid will it change anything ?

I'm ...

I totally agree. This also gives more variety in how you get to high quality products. I already have to do upcycling a bunch of times, I don't see why that should have to be the solution in ALL cases. In return for having quality in crushers we get all this sweet extra complexity and interesting ...

Genius idea, it hits two birds with one stone. Love it, +1. Honestly, I would even remove the natural collector element. Make them act like the small rods, no special effects.

Nauvis is the only planet where flamethrower ammo can be manufactured without importing resources from another planet or from space. One can't even fuel a flamethrower turret on Gleba without either importing oil barrels, or setting up a long and otherwise pointless production chain for coal ...

What?

Currently, there are four biological recipes that are similar to kovarex enrichment, in that they produce a surplus of one of their input items. However, all of them have one trait in common: Their outputs are always 100% fresh.

Of course, if the outputs inherited freshness from all of ...

Not necessary at all. Every fluid in the game (that you could realistically have an unusable excess of) can be turned into a solid item. And solid items can be recycled, burned, thrown into lava, etc. You can just do that.

Technically I see three uses for fish breeding.
1. Quality fish
2. Mass-produce spidertrons
3. Convert nutrients into a form with long shelf-life

I’m afraid you missed one: It’s funny.

I think the science pack cost (only lime and space) makes this pretty clear. It’s a meme research that also ...

J-H wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:35 pm I think a quality locomotive going faster would be great!

Quality fuels already increase speed. What’s missing is braking force to make that speed more efficient. That would be a much better quality effect for locomotives, imo.

You can turn every quality of ore into holmium solution, just select the correct quality level for the recipe. To dissolve uncommon holmium ore, for example, you will need to select the uncommon recipe.

Well, first of all, I have to commend you for having such a reasonable approach to this issue. Many people are very quick to dismiss the negative consequences of adding multiple landing pads or (especially) inserters being able to extract from cargo bays. It’s refreshing to see.

But this part I ...

It doesn't fundamentally change how you use it. You still need all of the other perimeter defenses, you just don't need to haul shells as far.

What I think you and others in this thread are balking at is the quadratic nature of the coverage area increase compared to the linear benefits of all ...

Infinite research and legendary quality is exactly where I expect things to be incredibly overpowered. What's the problem with investment into vertical scaling leading to vertical scaling?


Quality should only give things bigger numbers, it shouldn’t affect the way you use them. At least, not in ...

I dissagrea.

I think this is hugley dependet on playstyle. I play on rail world map settings and my permiters are quit far away and with many (don't recall exactly) levels of artilery range I am still no where near being able to reach my permiiter from the center of my base (atleast not in auto ...

It’s the only entity in the entire game that is given the same effect by both its quality and an infinite research, so they multiply. And the result is seriously OP. It’s not hard at all to get an artillery range larger than your entire revealed map out of just one turret . Half the fun of artillery ...

+1

This would also be very useful for engine units. Right now you can’t cast all three ingredients of an engine unit with just one foundry, because switching to pipe casting takes out the productivity modules. I just hope this isn’t difficult to implement for some reason.