tip : you can use stone brick to make path, like 4 tiles wide, and then align assembly machines that output things that you could shop in chest all near the road to make it easier to "shop" things and it gives a direction for where things will expand when it grows, it's already quite like that in ...

But the pump is there only because of the arbitary need to have a power plant that keeps temperature hot imo. It is to show that what you request is possible to do, but you don't need the pump to make a working power plant !

For eff's sake. The requirement isn't arbitrary; I just explained why ...

you can detect when you need Gleba science : when all the other packs stall.

Meaning any time research stops for whatever reason you will be fed AG science that will be rotting in your belt :)


Yes and no, if research stops i feel it's because you have finished them all ideally (or the queue ...

the rules for repathing can be found there : https://wiki.factorio.com/Railway/Train_path_finding , you can also use the debug menu to show "train repathing" it shows some text poping above trains when it occurs, it allows to show when the train repath to the same destination, which would otherwise ...

The amount of time the heat exchangers column takes to get back to full temp is substantial. It would require a significant increase in the size of the tank farm to achieve it, and I can't actually make my tank farm much bigger; I'm already very near the point of exceeding the maximum pipeline ...

Thus, shutting off the heat exchangers allows the system to start up quickly on demand.

The conclusion is true imo, i agree, shutting off the heat exchanger allows the system to start up quickly and on demand. But also it's not "sufficient" to justify implementing the suggestion in a way ...

if you want to make an on-demand factory on Gleba you have to consider a few things :

1°) the egg in the science recipe

When you don't research Gleba science, you don't need to run an endless egg loop, you can have it stop. You can restart it by recycling biochambers. This can be automated. You ...

Let me explain this one more time: My nuclear power plant is the main power source for my entire base. If I cut off the turbines from the main power grid, my whole base instantly goes into a massive brownout, as 0.5GW of solar panels try to supply a 4GW base. Therefore, any solution that involves ...

You can make demand-based factory where you don't send AG science on Nauvis if you don't need it. It require more complex logic than producing all the time, but it is possible to achieve.

I believe this is out of topic and useless in the current discussion.

I understand there are no objections to using a power switch to control the steam power plant like in the posted setup.

Let's recap from the beginning ok ?


I've never used it myself, but I've heard a number of people describe "disable the offshore pump" as their favorite method of disabling a steam power plant. Blocking the steam output sounds like it's much more intrusive on your design; e.g. you can't use that ...

So to make a recap, before the interruption :



That was frequent before 2.0, that was my favourite option, but currently given the new ratio water to steam, cutting off the offshore pump adds delay before the steam production stops ( the residual water represent much more steam). If that delay ...

Once again, I don't care about the strawman you're railing against.

If you don't want to consider applications of keeping reactor temperature high, then don't consider applications of keeping reactor temperature high , and stop whining that I'm not considering the specific narrow situation that ...

You posed a question. I found it interesting own its own merits and responded to it.

And, apparently, my attempt to preempt confusion on your part failed.


As you noted the question wasn't adressed to you, rather it question the premises of the OP, that there is a "need" and not a "desire" to ...

I don't know and don't care what strawman you're going on about.


I feel you should have then refrained from voicing this objection :


3) i don't see any compelling reason to keep reactor temperature above an arbitrary threshold, i feel that's a "you" thing. To me the important part is that ...

I'll give you some extra time to think about what relation keeping reactors sufficiently hot might have with preventing your plant from stopping steam production.


There is no need it's pointless it's unrelated to the suggestion. You just made up a random unrelated case, "when you expand your ...

Are you seriously telling me there is no value in error-proofing a build because it's possible to make a ridiculously exaggerated error that's too big to proof against?


:lol: i'm just saying there is no compelling reason to keep the reactor always hot, the demo setup i posted is there to ...

I find it peculiar you paired "Expand by a couple of reactors" with "Ensure you have a steam buffer to cover loss in generation" and "Massive 10x expansion!!!" with "Keep reactors hot so that the system doesn't go under 500 degrees", rather than pairing things the other way around.


You can do ...

3) i don't see any compelling reason to keep reactor temperature above an arbitrary threshold, i feel that's a "you" thing. To me the important part is that the electricity is reactive , that's why you have steam tank in the first place.
(I'm not the person this was directed at, to preempt any ...

yes please !

I have a book of blueprint that is called "pre-space age", and it represent about 250 MB, there are a lot of blueprint, and the more time pass the less familiar i am with the tree structure, which is quite messy anyway. The search function fine for the new blueprints, but this ...