Bugs & FAQ

[SajmonG]

If I have to guess: It's imploding because of layered icons. But you have to bring that up with the author of Research Queue, nothing I can do here.

Will add that to the bobs override, thanks.

Ok. I will inform the author to Resarch queue. Thanks.

[steinio]

It is some kind of problem with resarch queue and the technology Temperate Tree Aboretum. See the error message below:

Error while running event research-queue::on_gui_click (ID 1)
Unknown style rq-techbio-aboretum-temperate
stack traceback:
__research-queue__/functions/update_queue.lua:167: in function 'updateQ'
__research-queue__/control.lua:103: in function <__research-queue__/control.lua:82>

It is no problem to resarch the technology the usual way.
Same problem with the Swamp Tree Arboretum I think.

Another thing I have discoverd. I play with both Bob's and Angels mods. If you want to filter or request the tinned copper wire there is two of them. One in the Metallurgy Casting tab (unknown key) and the other one in the Bob's intermediate products (the correct one).

If I have to guess: It's imploding because of layered icons. But you have to bring that up with the author of Research Queue, nothing I can do here.

Will add that to the bobs override, thanks.

Which version of research queue do you use?
This version has several fixes for the icon problem: viewtopic.php?f=92&t=17219&p=340163#p340129
Seems it's not on the portal.

[SajmonG]

I use version 1.6.4. No new updates are available when I click on "check for updates".

[steinio]

I use version 1.6.4. No new updates are available when I click on "check for updates".

Follow my mentioned link please.

[SajmonG]

I use version 1.6.4. No new updates are available when I click on "check for updates".

Follow my mentioned link please.

Same problem even with 1.6.5. I will post the error messega on the research queue thread.

[Syn]

According to the ferrious ore efficiency from Beaniebaby4000, both have the same. Based on an input of 18 ores, you also get 18 ores out of it. It is very easy to calculate that with Helmod.

The output is 9 iron ore + 2,25 manganese + 2,25 nickel + 2,25 cobalt + 2,25 chrome = 18 ore/sec

The input is 5,5 saphirite + 5,5 jivolite + 5,5 rubyte + 1,5 copper = 18 ore/sec

The problem is that currently, it is not very usefull, because it is a lot more complex with no benifit at all. As far as I know it is currently the only source of chrome and when we will need chrome, we will have to sort it this way.

Additional to the complexity, you also need an input. The sulfur based ores doesn't need one, which is really nice and easy to service. If you have less then 33,3% mining productivity, you have a loss of flourite ore, so you also have to crack acid gas to get the hydroflouric acid. (You produce 112,5 flouric waste water, which equals 1,125 flourite ore, but you need 1,5 to keep the factory running). When you start to need further hydroflouric acid (for infinite ore mining), it gets even worse.

With the need of three different acids, thermal water, salt water (for hydrogen chloride and sodium hydroxide) and lubricant, it is clearly something you should built in the endgame.

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And now to some bugs. Please be merciful, if I post a duplicate. I tried to eleminate all I read the forum and have a 1 week old version, so it should be fine.

1.) Brass processing is named "zinc processing". Search for Zinc processing and you will see, it unlocks brass gear wheel, pipes, ...

2.) The geode placement is wrong. But only in the filter overview. In "E" everything is correct

3.) Other filter related stuff. Like there is a "tin wire" - filter in metallurgy casting, that doesn't work. you have to use the "tin wire" - filter from "Bob's Intermediate products". And other small things like Liquifier being in the 'Refining' tab instead of the 'Petrochem' tab

4.) There is a missing 0 in "Flame bullet projectile". The others all need 10 Alien Liquids. But I think I have to post this in bobs forum :/

At the end some things that would be nice:
-)Another input in hydro plants and washing plants would be nice, so that people can mirrow the blueprints
-)Info on barreling pumps/ ... / Clarifier how much they pump/void (like the info on belts, so that you dont have to test it to find out that barreling pumps can pump 500/s)

And I love your mods Great Work!!

PS: other thinks that might be a bug or already posted:

1.) I'm not sure if this was already mentioned but the name of temperate and swamp tree is missing when you mouse-over it. (before mining)

2.) You can place Seafloor pumps on the ground a couple of tiles away from water.

[Arch666Angel]

According to the ferrious ore efficiency from Beaniebaby4000, both have the same. Based on an input of 18 ores, you also get 18 ores out of it. It is very easy to calculate that with Helmod.

The output is 9 iron ore + 2,25 manganese + 2,25 nickel + 2,25 cobalt + 2,25 chrome = 18 ore/sec

The input is 5,5 saphirite + 5,5 jivolite + 5,5 rubyte + 1,5 copper = 18 ore/sec

The problem is that currently, it is not very usefull, because it is a lot more complex with no benifit at all. As far as I know it is currently the only source of chrome and when we will need chrome, we will have to sort it this way.

Additional to the complexity, you also need an input. The sulfur based ores doesn't need one, which is really nice and easy to service. If you have less then 33,3% mining productivity, you have a loss of flourite ore, so you also have to crack acid gas to get the hydroflouric acid. (You produce 112,5 flouric waste water, which equals 1,125 flourite ore, but you need 1,5 to keep the factory running). When you start to need further hydroflouric acid (for infinite ore mining), it gets even worse.

With the need of three different acids, thermal water, salt water (for hydrogen chloride and sodium hydroxide) and lubricant, it is clearly something you should built in the endgame.

----------------------------------------------
And now to some bugs. Please be merciful, if I post a duplicate. I tried to eleminate all I read the forum and have a 1 week old version, so it should be fine.

1.) Brass processing is named "zinc processing". Search for Zinc processing and you will see, it unlocks brass gear wheel, pipes, ...

2.) The geode placement is wrong. But only in the filter overview. In "E" everything is correct

3.) Other filter related stuff. Like there is a "tin wire" - filter in metallurgy casting, that doesn't work. you have to use the "tin wire" - filter from "Bob's Intermediate products". And other small things like Liquifier being in the 'Refining' tab instead of the 'Petrochem' tab

4.) There is a missing 0 in "Flame bullet projectile". The others all need 10 Alien Liquids. But I think I have to post this in bobs forum :/

At the end some things that would be nice:
-)Another input in hydro plants and washing plants would be nice, so that people can mirrow the blueprints
-)Info on barreling pumps/ ... / Clarifier how much they pump/void (like the info on belts, so that you dont have to test it to find out that barreling pumps can pump 500/s)

And I love your mods Great Work!!

PS: other thinks that might be a bug or already posted:

1.) I'm not sure if this was already mentioned but the name of temperate and swamp tree is missing when you mouse-over it. (before mining)

2.) You can place Seafloor pumps on the ground a couple of tiles away from water.

1) Zinc processing is a bobs tech, what you see there is basically what's left after I gutted it -> removed the regular zinc smelting recipes

2) I adjusted that thanks

3) I added a few lines to hide the wires, but there is more unused stuff.

4) That's an issue for bob to tackle

I know that there are several entities that could use some additional descriptions

1) Should be fixed

2) Have to look into that, but I dont think that is really game breaking

[dreadxx990]

there is one issues error with bio processing

[Arch666Angel]

Should be fixed, was an error with the alien-biomes tie in I changed

[Iorek]

I installed bobs and angels mods.

I have quite a few dead bobs buildings that dont do anything. water pumps 1-4, electrolizers, metal mixing furnace, chemical furnace. all have no recipes. and angels adds a barreling pump, mixing furnaces etc...

are these supposed to be dead objects or did the recent patch break somthing in them? causing both the old and replacements to appear
I am also able to unlock alot of angels buildings before they have any recipes so they appear to be dead. eg I can build a strand casting machine before I can make any wire etc.

[Termak]

Theres some recipes where you need the bobs machines but like 99% is done in the angel ones, also the strand casting machine opens before you get the recipes for it, same as blast furnace etc.
Also check that you dont have the "Angel's Smelting Patch" mod which actually isnt part of the Angel pack but something extra made by someone else.

[GemeinerJack]

Don't know if it is already mentioned:

If you run only Angel's Refining, you have Water treatment 4 research without anything to unlock and it depends on Thermal Water Extraction, Water treatment 3 is non existent.

[bonesbro]

In this game I'm trying Angel's but not Bob's. I've found that it's impossible to progress because I need concrete blocks but cannot make them. Concrete bricks require molten concrete, molten concrete requires cement, cement requires Silicon Ore, and you cannot get Silicon Ore with just Angel's mods.

Modlist in spoiler tag:

____________________________

• Adequate Bot Start
  Alien Biomes
  Alient Biomes High-Res Terrain
  Angel's Addons - Ore Silos
  Angel's Addons - Petrochem Train
  Angel's Addons - Pressure Tanks
  Angel's Bio Processing
  Angel's Infinite Ores
  Angel's Petro Chemical Processing
  Angel's Refining
  Angel's Smelting
  Big Brother
  Bob's Adjustable Inserters
  Bob's Functions Library mod
  Bottleneck
  Clock
  EvoGUI
  Flare Stack
  Geothermal
  Resource Spawner Overhaul
  Squeak Through
  Warehousing Mod
  What it is really used for?
  YARM - Resource Monitor

[Termak]

Silicon ore might be named Quartz ore on the search mods since thats the original Bob's name for it.
Easiest way to get silicon is sorting chunks or use the second tier cupric recipe which does need lubricant.

[bonesbro]

Silicon ore might be named Quartz ore on the search mods since thats the original Bob's name for it.
Easiest way to get silicon is sorting chunks or use the second tier cupric recipe which does need lubricant.

Yes, I played a number of games with Bob's before, and none of those ores exist exist in stock + angels + RSO. There are four Angel's ores: Saph, Jiv, Stir, and Crot. No Rubyte and no Bobmonium. Sorting the four ores produces iron or copper, as well as iron/copper nuggets and pebbles. The sorting recipes you mention also do not exist. Cupric Chloride can be created but has no uses and Lubricant is not used as an input to any sorting recipes.

[jcranmer]

Minor bug, but it was screwing up some of my scripts (they really need to be more tolerant of errors, but meh):

The gas synthesis colors seem to be *slightly* off (note the missing r property):

Code: Select all

{
    type = "fluid",
    name = "gas-synthesis",
    icon = "__angelspetrochem__/graphics/icons/gas-synthesis.png",
	icon_size = 32,
	default_temperature = 25,
    heat_capacity = "0.1KJ",
    base_color = {210/255, g = 120/255, b = 210/255},
    flow_color = {210/255, g = 120/255, b = 210/255},
    max_temperature = 100,
	pressure_to_speed_ratio = 0.4,
    flow_to_energy_ratio = 0.59,
},

[ElderAxe]

Small bug in Angels Addons - Ore Silos;
When you remove ore replace an [ore] silo, you get normal silo in your inventory

[Carch]

Silicon ore might be named Quartz ore on the search mods since thats the original Bob's name for it.
Easiest way to get silicon is sorting chunks or use the second tier cupric recipe which does need lubricant.

Yes, I played a number of games with Bob's before, and none of those ores exist exist in stock + angels + RSO. There are four Angel's ores: Saph, Jiv, Stir, and Crot. No Rubyte and no Bobmonium. Sorting the four ores produces iron or copper, as well as iron/copper nuggets and pebbles. The sorting recipes you mention also do not exist. Cupric Chloride can be created but has no uses and Lubricant is not used as an input to any sorting recipes.

minor workaround. if you know how to do it. open up prototypes/recipes/smelting-stone.lua file and replace quartz with someting. I went with stone-brick (in part to use up more stone. and because it's part of the vanilla recipe for concrete)

[bonesbro]

Silicon ore might be named Quartz ore on the search mods since thats the original Bob's name for it.
Easiest way to get silicon is sorting chunks or use the second tier cupric recipe which does need lubricant.

Yes, I played a number of games with Bob's before, and none of those ores exist exist in stock + angels + RSO. There are four Angel's ores: Saph, Jiv, Stir, and Crot. No Rubyte and no Bobmonium. Sorting the four ores produces iron or copper, as well as iron/copper nuggets and pebbles. The sorting recipes you mention also do not exist. Cupric Chloride can be created but has no uses and Lubricant is not used as an input to any sorting recipes.

minor workaround. if you know how to do it. open up prototypes/recipes/smelting-stone.lua file and replace quartz with someting. I went with stone-brick (in part to use up more stone. and because it's part of the vanilla recipe for concrete)

Good idea! Raw crushed stone ("stone-crushed" in LUA) might be a good thematic fit too. For the moment I worked around the bug by adding a thousand silicon ore via the console.

[toastftw]

Hi there friends. I'm really new to this game, and am having trouble getting Angel's Infinite Resources to work. It is currently the only mod I have. I'm not sure I'm posting to the right place, but any help would be appreciated. I've got the mods showing up in the base game, but with the update yesterday to 16.23 (the day after I bought the game), I can't get this mod to work. Is there any workaround or plans to update? Thanks anyone for the help.