[0.18] Need suggestions/feedback for a WIP reskin mod...

[kirazy]

Copper-tungsten alloy is one of the things I didn't look up a reference at all. it was originally a DyTech thing, so just used something approximately the same colour he did.
When it came to doing the pipe graphics, since Copper is this orangey colour, and Tungsten is black, I just, went somewhere between, made a dark copper. I'm amazed how much real Copper-Tungsten just looks like "Dark Copper"
Your rendition on the right though, looks more brown, perhaps add a little more saturation to it, make it slightly more on the orange side? Not to the extreme of the left image though.

Copper-tungsten is interesting; it's not an alloy, properly speaking, but a composite material since they don't dissolve into each other.

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[bobingabout]

Copper-tungsten alloy is one of the things I didn't look up a reference at all. it was originally a DyTech thing, so just used something approximately the same colour he did.
When it came to doing the pipe graphics, since Copper is this orangey colour, and Tungsten is black, I just, went somewhere between, made a dark copper. I'm amazed how much real Copper-Tungsten just looks like "Dark Copper"
Your rendition on the right though, looks more brown, perhaps add a little more saturation to it, make it slightly more on the orange side? Not to the extreme of the left image though.

Copper-tungsten is interesting; it's not an alloy, properly speaking, but a composite material since they don't dissolve into each other.

copper-tungsten-60.pngcopper-tungsten-64.pngcopper-tungsten-68.png

I'm not sure about Tungsten Carbide... but that's the same deal with the Nickel in Tungsten. Tungsten is hard to melt, but Nickel is easy to melt. But melting the Nickel into the powedered tungsten, it causes the tungsten to bond to itself, but the nickel is just dispersed within it, as a composite. It's like a low temperature method of smelting Tungsten.

As for your 3 pictures of Copper-Tungsten pipe there... I don't really see all that much difference between them, but they do seem better than the one on the previous page, Yes, I realise the difference is very minor, but you managed to make it look better with this small change.

[kirazy]

Oh, trust me, I appreciate the power of tiny tweaks when it comes to graphics.

If you don't have a preference between the three, I will use the least saturated of them, the ct-60.

[bobingabout]

Oh, trust me, I appreciate the power of tiny tweaks when it comes to graphics.

If you don't have a preference between the three, I will use the least saturated of them, the ct-60.

sure.

[kirazy]

And done... now to do remnants then make the low-res versions.


Honestly, the explosions, and remnants are part of why I'm doing this: https://youtu.be/JbM-NpfBAGs

[kirazy]

Snazzy electronics assembling machine sprites (I wanted to be able to distinguish them from mini-machine assembling machines):


Also, can someone please help me out with a more elegant solution to adding additional layers to a table, aside from the workable

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enity.animation.layer[6] = blah
enity.animation.layer[7] = blah
enity.animation.layer[8] = blah

[bobingabout]

Snazzy electronics assembling machine sprites (I wanted to be able to distinguish them from mini-machine assembling machines):


Also, can someone please help me out with a more elegant solution to adding additional layers to a table, aside from the workable

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enity.animation.layer[6] = blah
enity.animation.layer[7] = blah
enity.animation.layer[8] = blah

I'd probably go with table.insert, it's what my library does to add new ingredients (or anything really) to the end of a list without knowing it's length.

Quote from LUA Wiki:

table.insert(table, [pos,] value)
Insert a given value into a table. If a position is given insert the value before the element currently at that position:

> t = { 1,3,"four" }
> table.insert(t, 2, "two") -- insert "two" at position before element 2
> = table.concat(t, ", ") -- output the table as a string
1, two, 3, four
If no position is specified we append the value to the end of the table:

> table.insert(t, 5) -- no position given so append to end
> = table.concat(t, ", ")
1, two, 3, four, 5
When a table has an element inserted both the size of the table and the element indices are updated:

> t = { 1,"two",3 } -- create a table
> = # t -- find current size
3
> table.foreach(t, print) -- display the table contents
1 1
2 two
3 3
> table.insert(t, 1, "inserted") -- insert an element at the start
> = table.concat(t, ", ") -- see what we have
inserted, 1, two, 3
> = # t -- find the size
4
> table.foreach(t, print) -- the indexes have been updated
1 inserted
2 1
3 two
4 3
When no position is specified the element is inserted at the end of the table according to the calculated size. The size of a table may be user specified and not reflect the number of elements, e.g.,

> t = { 1,"two",3; n=10 } -- create a table with user size
> table.insert(t, "end") -- insert with no position inserts at "end"
> table.foreach(t, print) -- display the table contents
1 1
2 two
3 3
11 end
n 11

so basically, just go with:

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table.insert(enity.animation.layer, blah)

or perhaps if you were adding a mask layer to an entity that usually only has a base and shadow layer:

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table.insert(enity.animation.layer, 2, blah) -- puts the new layer in table position 2, shuffles everything else (EG shadow) to position 3+

Though keep in mind, Although I've only ever used the first example myself, it's rare to find anything in a LUA tutorial or Wiki that doesn't work in Factorio.

[kirazy]

Trying to determine the best way to indicate tier on the pumpjacks. My current idea involves a stripe of paint, rather than solid-colored parts, since the jacks aren't a grey:

Prototype (I haven't cleaned it up):

[bobingabout]

Trying to determine the best way to indicate tier on the pumpjacks. My current idea involves a stripe of paint, rather than solid-colored parts, since the jacks aren't a grey:

Prototype (I haven't cleaned it up):

Simple... but yet it seems to work.

[kirazy]

Finished mask:


Simple, but I realllllly like how well that turned out. Particularly given trying to find something else to color just all looked bad.

[bobingabout]

Finished mask:


Simple, but I realllllly like how well that turned out. Particularly given trying to find something else to color just all looked bad.

sometimes just a splash of paint works wonders.

[kirazy]

At last. This has been my least favorite entity to do.



Gonna tweak the color though, so that tier 3 actually is distinguishable.

[bobingabout]

At last. This has been my least favorite entity to do.



Gonna tweak the color though, so that tier 3 actually is distinguishable.

Yeah, they don't have to be that particular shade of blue, that's just the one I used.

[kirazy]

Aside from the bug... belts are done.

And since Miniloaders uses graphics I made for it now, I can make them match nicely too!

[kirazy]

I tweaked the electrolyser mask/highlights (the darker walls is the new version). It's not darker per se, but I think it works better. I tried a number of things to make it darker but they don't work for my colors. :C

The only remaining issue is that it's more... reflective than your typical vanilla entity, and that's really something that has to be fixed in Blender.

Edit: I lied, I don't like the new highlights, so here's new mask with old highlights compared with new mask with new highlights:


Darker is new mask + old highlights.

[bobingabout]

I tweaked the electrolyser mask/highlights (the darker walls is the new version). It's not darker per se, but I think it works better. I tried a number of things to make it darker but they don't work for my colors. :C

The only remaining issue is that it's more... reflective than your typical vanilla entity, and that's really something that has to be fixed in Blender.

Edit: I lied, I don't like the new highlights, so here's new mask with old highlights compared with new mask with new highlights:


Darker is new mask + old highlights.

Yeah, I think the new darker version is better.

[Eloth]

How many of these reskins have been added to the bob's mods. Also any plans on any circuits reskins

[bobingabout]

How many of these reskins have been added to the bob's mods. Also any plans on any circuits reskins

Circuits have been reskinned about 4 times already

Electrolysers and Chemical plants have been added to Bob's mods already.
Turrets are on the list of things to do, along with the latest Electrolyser update.

[kirazy]

How many of these reskins have been added to the bob's mods. Also any plans on any circuits reskins

My plan is to make this play nice with ShinyBobsGFX, and then eventually do my own version of items/entities where appropriate. But like Bob said, circuits have been done to death. I have some ideas for equipment, though.

[kirazy]

No tier labels on items on belts. And the shadow cast by the mask... isn't the worst... but...