[2.0.43] Incorrect warning about Steam Remote Storage

[Tellmarch]

When I start the game, I get the warning:

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However, I don't have game saves in the Steam Cloud - actually, I just deleted everything on the steam cloud just yesterday when I got the warning first.

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As seen above, my Factorio cloud storage only amounts to less than 100 KB, including 17 KB for the blueprints.

This view seems to indicate that the warning may be coming from steam directly:

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However, I only ever got this issue with Factorio, so I wonder if Factorio may be doing something wrong with Steam API which makes Steam think the save folder is in the cloud, when it's not. Could you please check if that's the case?

[Rseding91]

Thanks for the report. We are simply querying the steam API asking for free space left and this is what it gives back. It looks like steam itself never updated the local value of "files in cloud" - something that we have no control over. In any case, I don't see anything we could be doing differently. Steam decides all of that sync logic on its own outside of any API the game can access.

[Tellmarch]

It seems to me that there could be something wrong with the way that Factorio uses Autocloud (not just when asking for free space left, the actual configuration of Autocloud).

In case it helps, here are extracts from the steam cloud log: (everything is with "Keep game's saves in the Steam Cloud" disabled, but clearly it's still looking at those save files)

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[2025-04-15 16:40:35] [AppID 427520] Starting sync (AC Launch,Sync Disabled,)
[2025-04-15 16:40:35] [AppID 427520] AutoCloud checking local state for user [removed]
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Currently already synced to global change number '1', should be nothing to download
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/c715.zip
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/_autosave3.zip
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/c714.zip
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/c713.zip
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/_autosave2.zip
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/_autosave1.zip
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file achievements.dat
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file config.ini
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file player-data.json
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/c712.zip
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/c711.zip
...
[2025-04-15 16:40:41] [AppID 427520] AutoCloud done. Watching 978 files
....
[2025-04-15 16:41:19] [AppID 427520] Starting sync (AC Exit,Sync Disabled,)
[2025-04-15 16:41:19] [AppID 427520] Running AutoCloud on exit. Looking for new and updated files
[2025-04-15 16:41:19] [AppID 427520]     Evaluating rule 0 with root="WinAppDataRoaming" path="Factorio/saves/" pattern="*.zip" (recursive)
[2025-04-15 16:41:19] [AppID 427520]         Found 1018 files that match C:\Users[removed]\AppData\Roaming\Factorio\saves\*.zip
[2025-04-15 16:41:19] [AppID 427520]     File C:\Users\[removed]\AppData\Roaming\Factorio\saves\start.zip is over quota. Removing from cloud
[2025-04-15 16:41:19] [AppID 427520]     File C:\Users\[removed]\AppData\Roaming\Factorio\saves\_autosave-platform-3s-first-trip-to-fulgora.zip is over quota. Removing from cloud
...
[2025-04-15 16:41:19] [AppID 427520] AutoCloud complete
[2025-04-15 16:41:20] [AppID 427520] Currently already synced to global change number '1', should be nothing to download
[2025-04-15 16:41:20] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/c715.zip
[2025-04-15 16:41:20] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/_autosave3.zip
[2025-04-15 16:41:20] [AppID 427520] Need to upload file Factorio/saves/c714.zip
...
[2025-04-15 16:41:20] [AppID 241100] Starting sync (up,AC Exit,)

Even when I delete the file "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\[removed]\427520\remotecache.vdf" which contains references to all the saves, the next time I launch Factorio, still with the setting to put saves to the cloud disabled, it will rebuild the file with all the saves, as if Factorio configuration instructed it to do so.

If on the other hand this is really a bug in Steam that has existed for several years, can it be escalated to Steam so that they look at it?

[Rseding91]

I'll ask about it. As far as "Auto cloud" goes: Factorio the exe doesn't do anything with it. Steam monitors the folder and does what ever it wants to do to sync files. On the Factorio exe side as far as I know there's not a single line of code interacting with that system.