Quality of items in Factorio 2.0

[Astron1304]

I'd want to make quality function optional.
What: I'd want that players can turn on and off quality function in walkthrough settings (when you're creating the world)
Why: Factorio is not a game about randomness, but about technical calculations and optimization. It's a little strange to see completely random things in such a game that cannot be counted.

[Koub]

It's already optional. The only way you can get non-default quality items is by using quality modules in machines crafting items to get a chance crafting an item of improved quality.

[Nidan]

In addition to what Koub said, Quality will be its own mod, so you won't even be able to have quality modules if you disable it.

[Illiander42]

I'd want to make quality function optional.
What: I'd want that players can turn on and off quality function in walkthrough settings (when you're creating the world)
Why: Factorio is not a game about randomness, but about technical calculations and optimization. It's a little strange to see completely random things in such a game that cannot be counted.

Factorio is a game about scale, and randomness applied to scale stopps being random and starts being statistics.

[Nemoricus]

In addition to what Koub said, Quality will be its own mod, so you won't even be able to have quality modules if you disable it.

I believe it's a required dependency of Space Age.

[Koub]

I believe it's a required dependency of Space Age.

Indeed. But Space Age is not mandatory either, Factorio 2.0 can be played without it.

[Nidan]

In addition to what Koub said, Quality will be its own mod, so you won't even be able to have quality modules if you disable it.

I believe it's a required dependency of Space Age.

All three expansion mods can be toggled independent of each other, best source I can find is this, but I believe there was an even more explicit statement by the devs

Elevated rails be will one of the standalone official mods next to Quality and Space Age

[Koub]

All three expansion mods can be toggled independent of each other, best source I can find is this, but I believe there was an even more explicit statement by the devs

Elevated rails be will one of the standalone official mods next to Quality and Space Age

Maybe I misinterpreted the https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-399, in which a screenshot gave me the impression recycling scraps had quality as a prerequisite.

[GrumpyJoe]

Could just be a mod loading order thingie? Recyclers could recycle more when they are better quality?

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[Xorimuth]

In addition to what Koub said, Quality will be its own mod, so you won't even be able to have quality modules if you disable it.

Quality is a required dependency for Space Age. But if you never research it, you will never see it in your game. Even if you do research it, you will never see quality items unless you use quality modules. Additionally I'd expect a mod to come out which removes all the quality researches anyway.

[Loewchen]

Quality is a required dependency for Space Age.

Who said that?

[Nemoricus]

Quality is a required dependency for Space Age.

Who said that?

boskid on the Factorio Discord, in #space-age.

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[Loewchen]

boskid on the Factorio Discord, in #space-age.

So SA requires Quality and Quality requires SA, what is the point of making them separate mods then? Or is just a logical necessity and not an info.json dependency, so you can use other mods to bridge the gap.

[BrainGamer_]

So SA requires Quality and Quality requires SA

Where did you get that last part from? Afaik you can have a vanilla + quality game, no SA.

[Loewchen]

Where did you get that last part from? Afaik you can have a vanilla + quality game, no SA.

The recycler is unlocked by mining scrap, scrap only exists on fulgora, fulgora requires SA.

[pleegwat]

Where did you get that last part from? Afaik you can have a vanilla + quality game, no SA.

The recycler is unlocked by mining scrap, scrap only exists on fulgora, fulgora requires SA.

Vanilla and SA have different tech trees.